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jb2point0:

--- Quote from: Shecky on January 31, 2013, 04:02:07 PM ---Only problem is that the original Nemesis was clearly in the Greek pantheon and thus among the "old gods" to which the texts have made multiple references. Or are you postulating Outsiders spending enough time on Earth in the classical era to earn reputations as gods alongside the "regular" pantheon?

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It's not out of the question that Outsiders can be banished to beyond the gates during any point in history. Though, that then begs the question, why does DR exist, if undesirable immortals can be sent beyond the gates.

Shecky:

--- Quote from: jb2point0 on January 31, 2013, 04:39:02 PM ---It's not out of the question that Outsiders can be banished to beyond the gates during any point in history. Though, that then begs the question, why does DR exist, if undesirable immortals can be sent beyond the gates.

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Not sure that follows from my comment. I was questioning the basic concept that Nemesis could have been an Outsider all along, and only peripherally whether an Outsider can stay for long in our world. Also, "immortal" does not equate to "Outsider".

GrandPanjandrum:
Take your theory and apply Hesiod's opinion that Nemesis was actually the daughter of Nyx (Not Zeus).  Then plug in that Nyx is actually Mother Winter...and you have a problem child (one of many, by the way).  You, also, have Mother Winter as the oldest of the old, and  the mother of the fates (as well as a whole collection of conditions...including death, doom, sleep, old age, friendship, love, etc...).

Mira:

--- Quote from: GrandPanjandrum on January 31, 2013, 04:51:54 PM ---Take your theory and apply Hesiod's opinion that Nemesis was actually the daughter of Nyx (Not Zeus).  Then plug in that Nyx is actually Mother Winter...and you have a problem child (one of many, by the way).  You, also, have Mother Winter as the oldest of the old, and  the mother of the fates (as well as a whole collection of conditions...including death, doom, sleep, old age, friendship, love, etc...).

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  Which explains why it seems to be Winter's lot to hold back and clean up the mess of one of her children.

GrandPanjandrum:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 31, 2013, 04:57:53 PM ---  Which explains why it seems to be Winter's lot to hold back and clean up the mess of one of her children.

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I think you could make a pretty good argument that Mother Winter was behind the construction of Demonreach (if she's Nyx)  since she used to have a home in Tartarus.  It might, also, be the reason Harry needs to go to Hades, since Tartarus is Hades' basement. 

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