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Piotr1600:

--- Quote from: Richard_Chilton on March 20, 2012, 07:06:38 PM ---In that case, Harry should have shot Morgan in the back during Summer Knight.  Morgan was a wizard and threat - he might not have been an active danger to Harry at the time but he was an existing threat to Harry.

And he should have arranged for a deadly accident for Marcone - who is also a threat.  And (by extension) Hendricks.  And he should have killed that White Court Vampire that was stalking him before Thomas revealed that he was Harry's brother.  And Fitz - Fitz should have died for shooting at Molly.

But Harry isn't a killer who neutralises threats like that.  He's deal with a danger while the danger exist and then tries to prevent the danger from coming back.  At least that's who he was before he killed a woman he loved to protect the daughter he never knew.   That's who he still was when he didn't have glans interfering with his thought process.  Will he be the same person in a few books time? Who knows?

Those dark influences keep adding up and he hasn't had the chance to interact with any light influences (Micheal, Maggie, etc) for a while.

Richard
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Neither Morgan nor Marcone are active threats of that magnitude.
Morgan is/was bound by the laws of wizardry. he was a dangerous opponent but he played by the rules.  Morgan is a big, mean dog inside a fence, wearing a collar and chained in a dog run.
Marcone is just not that much of a threat to Harry. He certainly wasn't seeking Harry out to destroy him at any point in the series. Marcone is a wolf in the woods.


Cassius on the other hand, was perfectly happy to use magic to try to kill. Cassius was not bound by the laws of magic, had obviously been planning on killing Harry for quite some time, and he would not be stopped short of his own death. Cassius is a big, mean hungry rabid dog that has gotten inside your house, and thinks you look yummy, and that you make interesting noises when you're in pain.

Richard_Chilton:
Harry - the guy who was there - saw it as a cold blooded killing.

Because that is what it was.

At the time he did it, Harry was able to come up with a rational reason to do it.  Looking back, he views his reasoning as rationalisation.

As for it being justified - Marcone has been just as big as a threat since Storm Front.  Having soul gazed the man, Harry knows that Marcone could kill Harry and feel nothing.  Since sometime between Turn Coat and Changes, Harry has known that Marcone builds anti-Harry death traps.

But rather than kill the threat, Harry saves Marcone in Fool Moon.  Rather than react to the anti-Harry death trap, Harry arranges to meet the man on neutral territory.

If the show was on the other foot, if Marcone didn't know that Harry wasn't a cold blooded killer, then Marcone would have long ago killed Harry in self defense.  Using the same rationale that Harry used when he did his first murder.

Then again, maybe the dark influences are slowly turning Harry into a cold blood killer.  Mab will definitely help with the "cold" part.

Richard

DragonEyes:

--- Quote from: Piotr1600 on March 20, 2012, 07:44:24 PM ---Cassius on the other hand, was perfectly happy to use magic to try to kill. Cassius was not bound by the laws of magic, had obviously been planning on killing Harry for quite some time, and he would not be stopped short of his own death. Cassius is a big, mean hungry rabid dog that has gotten inside your house, and thinks you look yummy, and that you make interesting noises when you're in pain.

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Harry was now a Warden. He could have taken Cassius captive, bound him, and turned him over to Morgan, who would have succinctly beheaded him anyways. He had a choice on what to do, and he chose to kill Cassius personally rather than through the screwed up yet official channels of the Wardens. It was a death he chose, not one he needed to give.

prince lotore:

--- Quote from: DragonEyes on March 20, 2012, 07:50:09 PM ---Harry was now a Warden. He could have taken Cassius captive, bound him, and turned him over to Morgan, who would have succinctly beheaded him anyways. He had a choice on what to do, and he chose to kill Cassius personally rather than through the screwed up yet official channels of the Wardens. It was a death he chose, not one he needed to give.

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As a warden harry doesnt need morgan to kill a warlock

DragonEyes:

--- Quote from: prince lotore on March 20, 2012, 07:52:18 PM ---As a warden harry doesnt need morgan to kill a warlock

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No, but he does apparently need a trial when there isn't an immediate danger, otherwise the trial at the beginning of PG makes no sense.

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