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HistoryDave:

--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 28, 2012, 01:57:51 AM ---maybe this was brought up alreadt but did anyone else notice
  (click to show/hide)hwwb lead harry into committing his first magical violence? specifically against an evil being messing with mortal life? seems fishy, a set up...
lea also comments to harry how hard it is to get young talents to believe in magical violence when talking about justin. a double meaning? was harry manipulated into laying the smack down on magical bad guys? he's pretty much been doing just that ever since..
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Imagine Lea responding to Harry after his encounter with HWWB and saying to herself.  "What a wonderful weapon the enemy is crafting, let us use it against them."  This may shed a new light on why Maggie had Lea pledged to be Harry's Fairy-God-Mother.  Then the enemy corrupts Lea, and Mab steps into Lea's role while she purges the the influence of Nemesis from Lea.  Makes a person wonder.

wizard nelson:
well lea was already his godmother but i had this theory..
(click to show/hide)harry having 'power' over outsiders is vague, justin wanted harry(also elaine is starborn) to control and lead outsiders for him. harry easily commands hwwb4 to tell him his name too. 'power' doesn't necessary only equate to ability to kill. also explains why hwwb4 wanted him alive.

Blagaah:

--- Quote from: dimpwnc on March 21, 2012, 06:42:59 PM ---I think that's just the necromancy thing.  Enthrallment doesn't specify a mortal or a human, and Harry explicitly accuses Victor of breaking it in the 1st book for having summoned and bound the trenchcoatted toad demon. (Morgan also accuses Harry of the same, claiming that it is against the 4th law)
I think he also reiterates the point in book 1, book 4, and book 10, saying how careful he is to imbue the words he uses to call Toot with as little will as possible to avoid breaking the law.

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Calling something (via summoning, etc) is fine, as the creature is not forced to do anything.  The summoning typically will peek the curiosity of the being you call.  As long as you bargain with it, instead of force it to act, there is no violation.  As for Harry binding Kravos' ghost he isn't enthralling the being, and he isn't dominating it.  He is altering the metaphysical reasoning behind its existence.  The Nightmare, like all ghosts, has a Purpose for existing, as Harry explains later in the book.  What Harry does to Kravos is redirect that purpose from EVERYONE that took him down to ONLY HARRY.  Kravos is still free to do as he wants (as far as ghosts are able) and would be perfectly fine committing violence against anything in his way, but will fixate on Harry, at least until Harry is dead.  It's the spiritual equivalent of Harry running ahead of his gang with a target on his back.

wizard nelson:
had an awesome  8) brain fart about what all these evil things trying to influence harry has actually done for him, listen
pphht!
its actually a great point, the more exposure harry has to resisting outside influences, the better able to reign in his own natural ones he's gotten.

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