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Offline MacShidhe

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True Hope
« on: February 04, 2011, 08:45:13 PM »
Hi All,

I have a plenty of examples of True Love (John 15:13) and True Courage (House Malvora is advised to avoid fire fighters, police officers, returning veterans, and Gurkhas) but I'm having trouble thinking of examples of True Hope.  May I ask for some examples?

I apologize if this has been brought up before on these boards.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 09:02:30 PM »
Huh.  You're right, nothing immediately jumps to mind.  Maybe just declare that it's roughly equivalent to True Faith?  (Though, to be fair there, I could see some interpretations of hope vs. faith that would preclude both existing within a single individual...)
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 09:06:07 PM »
I suppose the eternal optimist who believes that with enough effort tomorrow can definatly be better than today.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 09:18:50 PM »
Richard Simmons!
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 09:20:12 PM »
Children. Children have Hope.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 09:42:21 PM »
The Unbroken Prisoner. Someone who has seen the depths they could sink to, and understands real despair, but turns away from it nonetheless.

Much like I don't think one could have True Courage without knowing fear, at least in my opinion.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 09:46:40 PM »
Quote from: MyNinjaH8sU on February 04, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
The Unbroken Prisoner. Someone who has seen the depths they could sink to, and understands real despair, but turns away from it nonetheless.

Much like I don't think one could have True Courage without knowing fear, at least in my opinion.

Quote from: Babylon 5, Intersections In Real Time
   John Sheridan: You just have to say "no, I won't" one more time than they can say "yes, you will".
Quote from: Babylon 5, Intersections In Real Time
   John Sheridan: You know, it's funny, I was thinking about what you said, that the preeminent truth of our age is that you cannot fight the system. But if, as you say, the truth is fluid, that the truth is subjective, then maybe you can fight the system. As long as just one person refuses to be broken, refuses to bow down.
    Interrogator: But can you win?
    John Sheridan: Every time I say "no."

Something like that?
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 08:39:48 AM »
Quote from: MyNinjaH8sU on February 04, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
The Unbroken Prisoner. Someone who has seen the depths they could sink to, and understands real despair, but turns away from it nonetheless.
Mr Mandela
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 08:47:43 PM »
personally the "True Hope" thing just doesn't make sense to me and I think it's kind of stupid. In my games, I run it as True Faith making true believers slightly more powerful if only for a single enemy (or potential friend) but still. True Faith just works better for it, imo.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2011, 09:19:44 PM »
What about brand new parents?

Pregnant women may be a no-no for vampies allergic to hope too.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 04:32:50 PM »
ME. The eternal optimist. Everyone and everything can improve if we try.

Quote from: Sitrein on February 05, 2011, 08:47:43 PM
personally the "True Hope" thing just doesn't make sense to me and I think it's kind of stupid. In my games, I run it as True Faith making true believers slightly more powerful if only for a single enemy (or potential friend) but still. True Faith just works better for it, imo.

I think that your on the right track here. A good amount of people with True Faith would be in the same category as far as I see it. Try imagining some people with the same personality, just without faith in the picture.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2011, 04:42:09 PM »
Quote from: bibliophile20 on February 04, 2011, 09:46:40 PM
Something like that?

Yes.

This also has the side effect of being able to be used much, much easier for dramatic effect.
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2011, 04:46:45 PM »
Blue Lanterns
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 04:50:55 PM »
Quote from: Imp on February 07, 2011, 04:46:45 PM
Blue Lanterns

 ???  Care to elaborate?
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Re: True Hope
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 05:51:12 PM »
The Blue lantern Corp from DC  (yes flexing my geek muscle lol)

green lanterns run off Will

Blue power rings run off Hope
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