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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Waste systems
« on: November 25, 2015, 05:05:38 AM »
I think it depends on just how many spires there are in their world. If they exist in high numbers, then there can't be a limited number of mines, as that would allow the spires that control them unprecedented power over the others.
I mean, there's a spire whose entire economy is driven by its honey monopoly. I wouldn't be surprised if other spires had monopolies over various mined materials

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Intra-Habble Transportation
« on: November 25, 2015, 05:04:00 AM »
Their magic tech show examples of electric and magnetic application, what if they created some thing akin to a maglev on the ground?
Those would just be lift crystals with a small power crystal, and those are all made large and exclusively for ships. Using crystals like that would be like someone buying a private jet and using it to drive their kids to school

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Thoughts about "Iron Rot"
« on: November 25, 2015, 05:01:56 AM »
I don't think I consider it a complaint as much as an observation, esp. since I don't believe this is contradicted by anything in the text. 

As to your point, sure, Jim can invent any magic/physics rules he wants, but the general way these things go is that you introduce very few changes to the universe and then assume everything else is consistent.  So yes, magic crystals, but gravity still works, electricity needs to be conducted, material still have finite tensile strength and the Right Hand Rule is in effect until we see explicitly otherwise.

To put it another way, there is a range of fantasy type works ranging from the very "soft" fantasy of Harry Potter where one doesn't look to carefully at inconsistencies to the "hard" ones of Alera and (as far as we have seen) The Cinder Spires where except for a few stated rule changes, everything can be derived logically.   Infinitely hard spirestone would simply be adding yet another technical complication that at the moment seems unwarranted.  That's not to say that a future revelation that spirestone is actually a sort of magical forcecfield that doesn't bend couldn't be in the works, just that it doesn't seems necessary.
Yeah, but the spires are clearly one of the things that he's tweaked about the world so you can't expect them to follow normal material rules. They already break it by being an impossible structure with impossible tensile strength. No material that exists, and no material creation process we have could explain the spirestone

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Thoughts about "Iron Rot"
« on: November 25, 2015, 03:34:02 AM »
Because nothing is perfectly flat even in our world -- there's always a small incline.  It might not be detectable without instruments, but it will be there.  Consider also that even if the original builders settled the spires perfectly upright, building tend to sinks and the earth moves.  Unless there's some self-correcting mechanism, there's no way it would remain perfectly level.

Note also that all building tend to sway (in wind, minor earthquakes, etc.).   Yes, spirestone is incredibly strong and a spire is relatively short and squat, but it's physically impossible for anything to be 100% rigid.  It doesn't matter how tough it was built, something 2 miles high is going to be moving, possibly vibrating back and forth as the waves move up and down the spire.
It's also physically impossible for wooden ships to float through the air due to the powers of magic crystals, but I don't see you complaining about that....

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Intra-Habble Transportation
« on: November 23, 2015, 09:18:47 PM »
We do see spiders in habble morning and marines got from morning to landing via the vents, so there must be connections.

 Were there any mentions of carts, wagons or anything similar during the book? They dont have horses, so who woul move the goods.

We know only big ships can travel and dock at morning, landing and base. That is the equivalent of a port or a flight bay. What if there are something aking to air hatches? Small access way on each habble. We know that air ships can travel between spires, but there are mentions of other inter habble travels. Those need an avenue of access apart from a port.
Air transport is cheaper and faster than taking stuff up the stairs. Every habble charges a toll to use their staircases.

Folly carries the collection in two connested wagons

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Waste systems
« on: November 23, 2015, 09:15:43 PM »
how do they mine? If they dig underneath the spire they reissue destabilizing it. How would they even locate new site if the surface is so deadly?

The waste systems are likely linked to the meat vatteries and the water gardens, that are likely in some form in each Habble. They must have some really advance hydroponics or at least a magical version.
Didn't they have caravans that go between the spires? It's dangerous but instant death. It's like walking through any wild place

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Waste systems
« on: November 11, 2015, 03:23:33 AM »
I've just finished the book, and was thinking that they use an awful lot of resources.  Recycling is a fine first step for waste and water, but successful cloning in vats, as well as the manufacture of crystals and who knows what else requires much greater resources I am sure.  They create steel weapons coated in copper and copper cannon.  Since they do not utilize the surface of whatever planet they are on, where do the raw materials for them come from?
They have mines, that's a punishment for higher crimes.

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: The Index
« on: October 26, 2015, 05:35:13 PM »
The Spirearch said is contained "Names" Im not sure how that would translate to activation codes, but it could work I suppose.
Usernames and passwords.

Quote from: The index
You know, something like that

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: The Index
« on: October 24, 2015, 08:09:09 AM »
What if every spire has a security system and the index is a book that holds the codes to activate it?

They could kill everyone in the spire with that if there were inactive turrets they could turn on

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Should I feel offended?
« on: October 24, 2015, 06:46:48 AM »
I don't remember French names. Actually, I remember having seen one French name besides Bayard but I don't remember which one now.
On the other hand, Itasca it's a name from USA if wikipedia serves right, but it was created from Latin.
Itasca is a county from the state I lived in. I think it was a native American word

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Should I feel offended?
« on: October 24, 2015, 02:18:06 AM »
While Albion is quite obviously English in nature, there are scads of nations with those colors on their flags
Yeah, but if the flag had been brown and yellow and purple it would have been a point against

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Should I feel offended?
« on: October 24, 2015, 02:04:11 AM »
Another point towards it being england

A lean, slick airship flying Albion's scarlet, azure, and white colors sailed up into view

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Heaven (TAW series spoilers)
« on: October 23, 2015, 06:31:30 PM »
I'll start with the quote.

Quote from: Chapter 52
"Still don't see what the fuss is about," The man said. "A fire would do. One person, in and out."
"You underestimate the Wayists," The woman said. "There are warriorborn among their number, too." Her dark eyes glittered. "Besides. A fire is not enough. A message must be sent"
The man grunted. "Seems foolish."
"We'll never destroy them while they remain in heaven. We must therefore draw them out."
Bridget blinked at that.
"Baiting the mistshark," the man said. "Sometimes that doesn't go the way you think."

Alright, so I think this along with the quote about the archangel is the overall plot of the whole series. So Cavendish is working with the army to start a war, and I believe the codex is important to that war but we're not sure how yet. However, I believe, with this quote, that how she went around starting the war is purely to gain the attention of the archangels and draw them out of wherever heaven is for the enemy to destroy them.

Her stealing the index was for the human vs human war but her slaughtering the wayists and burning all the knowledge was for the enemy vs angel war.

I'm not really sure if anyone has already posted about this but I've been doing my second read extremely slowly and I've picked up a lot of text that we missed the first time around that has been answering questions posed in the forum.

Anyways, anyone have any ideas or opinions or anything on this?

I agree that the name "Aeronaut's Windlass" doesn't seem to fit.

As for the name Cinder Spires, my guess is that they were grown for the survivors of whatever conditions were spreading across the surface.  Those that first saw them, with presumably a dark earthy appearance and the empty pockets that humanity would move in to, compared it to cinder lava rock.
The spires are black (mostly), so I would assume that is why they're called cinder. It's being used as an adjective for the color of them

The black stone from which the spires had been constructed was all but indestructible, and had withstood the ravages of time for millennia- but the Builders had taken the secret of its working with them when they vanished from the world.

Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Minerals.
« on: October 21, 2015, 02:43:29 PM »
Nice job!

It occurs to me that it might be worth hainvg seperate reference threads with all the quotes.
Haha, I just happen to be doing my re-read late enough that I'm in the right sections to find these quotes

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