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Who says Harry needs a brand? It could have been some sadistic Maeve thing.

I was thinking the same thing. Well, not the sadistic part, necessarily, though I'm sure that would end up being true, too. I was thinking that if Harry had gone with Maeve at Mab's party, he probably would have come back with a brand on him somewhere so that Maeve would have something to use to control him more tightly.

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I searched and searched, can't find ANYthing on this topic (Except that maybe the Winter Queens were also known as The Morrigan, but maybe I found out what it's made out of...

"BLACKTHORN
Blackthorn is a winter tree. Its white flowers are seen even before the leaves in the spring. It is black barked with vicious thorns and grows in dense thickets. The wood is used in the cudgel shillelagh and Blasting Stick. Its thorns are used to pierce waxen images. Blackthorn indicates strong action of fate or outside influences that must be obeyed. "

EDIT: More and more interesting...
"Straif Drai'on Draenenwen Blackthorn - "Tree of Punishment and Strife" Peasant. Staves of Magickal Power. Draoi (Wizard), Drai" (Druid). Power in Visible and Invisible Worlds. Use to overcome resistance to One's will. Sorcha (bright colored) or purple-black."

Even if that stuff somehow isn't connected to the Blackstaff-- which I doubt, after reading it-- that's still some of the coolest mythology info I've seen. Nice. :)

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Maybe Odin is... everyone!!!  :P

Or maybe Odin was just the guy who stole the stick. It could as easily have been him as Merlin, surely.

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I think that the Blackstaff/Walking Cane might not actually be Mother Winter's, in a "she made it/it's part of her" way. Maybe the Staff is more like the wild hunt. Earlking usually is the leader of the wildhunt, because he is the strongest hunter around. But he can be replaced, as shown. Now I think the same might apply to the Staff, and it would explain, why Mother Winter is not simply getting it back. She was bested, and she can't. Like a "no take backs" rule or something. Even the Earlking asked nicely, if he could have his wild hunt back.

That's an interesting idea. It seems to me that a rule like that would only come into play if Mother Winter lost the staff fair and square, though, like in a game of some kind. Or a bet. Seems like the kind of thing Merlin might have done, since we know he won the Edinburgh headquarters in a bet with a Faerie lord. And Harry did provide a practical demonstration early on in Cold Days that the Sidhe can hardly ever manage to keep from playing games.

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If the Dresden books were about Merlin, it does seem to fit.  Harry Dresden isn't Merlin yet, but he's getting there.

With magic like what we saw in the creation of Demonreach? I love Harry, but nothing human made that spell, imho. Or at least nothing human designed it; it's too difficult for us to think in more than three dimensions at once. Four dimensions is doable, we guess at that when we try to picture black holes, but setting up spells to run across multiple dimensions beyond our three physical ones + time? Egh. Not when Demonreach had to dumb it down in order for Bob to understand it. Theoretical physicists imagine plenty of other dimensions, but they don't try to describe what it would be like to actually move around and do stuff in them, other than maybe a fourth physical dimension.

Maybe something happens to Harry in the future to turn him into a super-genius(less Wile E. Coyote, more Stephen Hawking on mental steroids) which allows him to make spells like that-- but barring that, I can't believe it.

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Thought of a few more questions for the Q&As:

1) Harry has claimed Demonreach as his "sanctum" with the sanctum invocation. A sanctum is a person's own, private place, their own personal sanctuary. We already know most of the practical effects of sanctum spells, but I'm wondering if there are side-effects which might be similar to claiming a place as one's home. With that in mind, could Demonreach, without Harry living there, begin to develop a threshold? Could Harry hang wards on the place even without a threshold? If Harry did start living there, would the entire island begin to develop a threshold, covering the same area that's covered by the Demonreach genius loci?

2) Lea has apparently followed Harry for his entire life, protecting him from attacks coming through from the Nevernever. Given that he has lived in several places, does this mean that Lea is able to change where a place on Earth links to in the Nevernever, so that each of his homes were linked up to her killing ground? Or has Lea simply been following him around, claiming all of the places Harry's homes connect to in the Nevernever as her own, and then creating new grounds at those places? Will Lea be able to do this if Harry decides to live on Demonreach?

3) If someone is the subject of a bargain between a fae and someone else, does that person(the subject) have any rights under Faerie law? Do they have the right to know the terms of the bargain which concerns them?


I figure the answer to the last one is "no, of course not," but it seems like there could be a chance. Fae don't always seem to advertise the rules of their behavior, but they do still follow rules, like the one where a fae has to do something if they say three times that they were meant to do it.

I'm still unclear on how that rule differs from them not being able to tell a lie, unless the difference is that fae aren't usually bound by what may happen in the future. The saying-something-three-times thing could mean that, if they say they ought to do something three times, then they are bound to do everything in their power to actually do it. Otherwise, maybe they can write the statement off as being unable to control the future or something. Which I guess could be another question:


4) How does the fae rule about saying something three times differ from the rule against saying something that isn't true? Doesn't the rule against lying also prevent a fae from saying they will do something and then not doing it?

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The eyes weren't actually yellow. Here's the description from PG:

Quote from: Proven Guilty, Ch. 41
One was an emaciated version of Molly, as though she’d been starved or strung out on hard drugs, her eyes aglow with an unpleasant, fey light.

"...her eyes aglow with an unpleasant, fey light." I'd guess that any number of supernatural creatures might be capable of crawling inside a human and causing them to look like that. We might even have seen one or two in the books already, if the creatures can cause different changes in the appearances of their victims. That look could even be the result of a bargain or series of bargains with some of the fae. Probably Winter fae, maybe even Lea.

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Actually we have a bit of a conundrum regarding faith and the Rampires.
We have 
in Grave Peril
vs
in Changes.

No, I think it makes sense. It's just that, while Red Court vamps are one of the groups which are strongly affected by implements of faith, Blampires are even more strongly affected by them. Red Court can be hurt and turned away by them at a distance, but Blampires can be fried by them even at a distance. At least, that's how it seemed to me in Grave Peril and Blood Rites. Which makes a kind of sense: Red Court are unnatural, soulless monsters; Black Court are even more unnatural, soulless, undead monsters. Red Court have a kind of magic flowing through them, maintaining their presence on the mortal plane; Black Court have a kind of magic flowing through them, which they not only need to maintain their presence on Earth, but also to simply animate their own bodies. They rely on it more than the Red Court does, so if something like faith magic interferes with it, they go poof faster.

Which is not to say that the Red Court isn't harmed by faith magic more easily than most beings of the Nevernever-- which, apparently, they are. It's just that Blampires have it even worse. But then, Blampires are also much more powerful, too.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« on: November 16, 2012, 09:54:50 PM »
I thought the quacker had tied them to a similar headache associated with Mab's Memory mod involving his fire magic, thus tying them to the "tarp" over LC.

I don't remember much about the "tarp over LC" idea. It always seemed kinda flimsy to me, seemingly based entirely on a lack of mention in Changes, rather than the mention of any specific evidence.

Harry did have sharp, piercing headaches whenever he tried to remember his blasting rod in SmF, but those weren't continuous things. They seemed to happen whenever his thoughts got too close to the subject of fire magic, which Mab had blocked from his mind. They weren't an always-on thing, and they passed without Harry even really noticing them, except to think, "Wtf??"-- at least, up until Michael brought it to his attention, and then he collapsed.

But those headaches didn't leave him lying on the couch with a migraine on and off for months, the way he was at the beginning of Turn Coat. For a memory-mod headache to do that, from the example shown in SmF, Harry would have to be constantly reminded of something he'd been forced to forget. Otherwise the headache would pass and he'd move on to thinking about something else, the way he did in SmF-- at least, if the example of the fire magic block in Small Favor is indicative of how those kinds of headaches work. It doesn't seem like Little Chicago would be something which would demand his attention frequently enough to account for the migraines in TC.

Aside from that, I don't remember anything about the tarp/memory-mod theory. Someone else will have to describe it, if you want to add stuff in about it.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« on: November 16, 2012, 09:15:23 PM »
When did Harry first start having /significant/ headaches?  SmF?

He had them in SmF, yes, but the headaches in SmF didn't start until after he got kicked in the face and had his nose broken. The book didn't open up with him having headaches. Turn Coat did open up that way, though, mentioning that the headaches had been continuing for the past several months. But I think it's important to note that there seems to have been something like a year and a half between SmF and TC-- SmF takes place in November of 8 ASF and TC takes place in the summer of 10 ASF-- so "the past several months" wouldn't seem to come close to covering that amount of time.  This, to me, suggests that the headaches in TC are unrelated to the headaches in SmF.

At a guess, the sequence of events seems to have been: the SmF headaches got better, Harry's nose healed, and a year or so passed. Then, several months before Turn Coat, Harry started getting headaches again, migraines, with no apparent cause. Many people, myself included, believe these were probably the Ice Cream Headaches of Paradox.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« on: November 16, 2012, 06:47:18 PM »
Dead Beat:
-Wizard healing/longevity are introduced.
-Both Evil Bob and Grevane refer to necromancy as "The True Magic". It is different enough from normal magic that it stains the user. Grevane (and Ulsharavas from DM) can sense it in Harry. Harry can sense it in Cowl.

I think we're dealing with two different types of magic here, each with two variations. There's normal magic, "the magic of life," which comes from all living things. This can be corrupted into black magic, which Harry hates and to which he reacts badly. Then there's necromantic magic, or, I suppose, "the magic of death," which is Grevane's magic, and which is what(I believe) he and Evil Bob were referring to as "the true magic."

Then, lastly, there is what Kumori did with that random dead guy on the street in Dead Beat. She warded his soul into his body somehow to prevent him from dying. Harry noted that the coldness of necromancy was there on the scene, but that it didn't have the sense of corruption to it that usually came along with the coldness of necromancy. And Kumori herself said that she had basically perverted necromancy into serving life, sort of the way normal magic can be perverted into destroying life as black magic.

So, there's normal magic and necromantic magic, and each one can be used either to serve life or to destroy it. Kumori said that one's purpose had to be strong to use necromancy in the service of life, though, which would seem to indicate that it's easier to use necromancy for destruction than for preservation. When normal magic is used for destruction-- I think this is the typical form of black magic that's shown in the books, the stuff that sorcerers are good at. Necromancy is usually used as black magic, though, and until Harry saw the signs of Kumori's spell in DB, he apparently didn't even think it could be used for anything other than black magic.

And, I guess, the stuff that Outsiders do is some other form of magic altogether. Unrelated to normal magic or necromancy, I'm guessing.

This is all conjecture on my part, though, put together from the various pieces of information in the books. I don't have any solid evidence that things work exactly this way, except that this description seems to fit with all of the information we've been given over the course of the series.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« on: November 16, 2012, 05:46:32 PM »
And great format, of course, Serack:D

Looking at even just the bare structure of it that's been outlined so far in the first post, I feel like this is one of those times when the cross-connections are so many that we almost need a three-dimensional model to make sense of them all. Or four-dimensional, really, representing not just the cross-connections but also the changes between the connections over time. If we had more details, we might be able to find the major vectors, like determining the spread of viruses across the world in those "outbreak" movies.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« on: November 16, 2012, 05:35:15 PM »
The word "Elaine" does not appear in the ebook of Storm Front. The comment neurovore mentioned is this:

Quote from: Storm Front, Ch. 5
I had been a miserable failure in relationships, ever since my first love went sour. I mean, a lot of teenage guys fail in their first relationships.

Not many of them murder the girl involved.

I shied away from that line of thought, lest it bring up too many old memories.

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I haven't seen the WoJ talking about Harry's skill at evocation, so I'm just guessing here, but I'd bet that a statement like that would need to be qualified with, "for his age" or "of his generation." I can see Harry being considered very good at evocation for someone of his age, but not for, say, a wizard who's 150 years old and has been a Warden for 100 years of that time. It seems like any Warden who's 150 years old or so is going to be way better at evocation than Harry is, just by dent of skill gained through an extra 100 years of experience.

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7) Where did Madrigal Raith acquire those ward cloths as they seem to  be rather convenient for participating in a duel  he didn't know he'd be in.

I know this isn't a definitive answer to the question like a WoJ would be, but I think I can answer the "rather convenient" part of the question. Madrigal Raith was basically a member of the White Court nobility. His uncle is King of the White Court. Members of nobility are bound to collect objects like those warded armbands, because they can afford them and they're in a position to come across such things, due to their prominence within the structure of the ruling House. I see it as something like the way wealthy families often collect antiques or expensive works of art; only, in this case, the armbands had practical value in a duel.

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