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DF Spoilers / Re: Cold Days: Attack on Demonreach
« on: January 24, 2018, 12:32:41 PM »
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I didn't mean to suggest it was 'that' bird. Or that particular species.  I was just saying in general Harry heard a bird and he looked about and saw Kringle walking to him.  Therefore the wards were down, Halloween had ended.  It wasn't even the first bird or necessarily strict confirmation of the rule, as Mab had recently departed with both Ladies and had conversed with Kringle, etc.  The rule concerning first bird most likely aligns with the precise rule, but there still can be a bit of fuzziness.  Hey there might be a 'cosmic' bird that decides these things not one on Earth. In mythology there actually are roosters whose crowing mean things.

It is my impression that it was daylight by then, birds and roosters begin much earlier.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cold Days: Attack on Demonreach
« on: January 23, 2018, 12:16:45 PM »
Cutting to the chase, your problem is the failure to realize that Nov. 1 is still Halloween. Halloween lasts until sunrise.

That doesn't have to be sunrise, anyone who has roosters knows they can crow at any time in the night.  Anyone awake early enough knows that some birds start to sing as early as three and four in the morning... Some birds do their singing after dark.

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That bird signaled the end of 'cosmic' Halloween.

Problem with that is it appears to be a "generic" bird instead of a specific species, so that in of itself could be a trap...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Disproof
« on: January 20, 2018, 06:45:19 PM »
Don't restrict me into that position.

  I am not, just stating the biggest justification for her character by most of her fans, the vanilla human foil for Harry, especially when Michael isn't around.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Disproof
« on: January 20, 2018, 06:04:50 PM »
You must have enough spiritual space for it, woj cited as one of the reasons Harry did not get the lady mantle, no room left for it.
Mark that one of the things Lea did with Molly is letting her handle more and more magic, making room.

Murphy was in clear view of anyone when the Lady mantles were transferred, Maeve did not think she was a suitable candidate either. (otherwise she would have killed her).

Agreed,  plus she was as close as Molly when the mantle was transferred and the mantle goes to the next suitable candidate, didn't go to Murphy, went to Molly..   In my view making Murphy eventually Mab defeats the main reason for which her fans claim to love her, Murphy the ordinary vanilla human...  Yes, she is smart, brave, and a good shot, but that doesn't make her a candidate for eventually becoming the Queen of Winter.   I also think she'd make a terrible Lady because of her views, and Mab would find a way for her to die.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What clues will we get from Peace Talks?
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:17:23 PM »

   I just want the book to be focused and move things on, perhaps tie up some annoying loose ends if possible...  My greatest hope is that is doesn't feel rushed and like Jim is basically on auto pilot writing about a familiar character and story line..  This has been a problem in my opinion in his latest short stories.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is the WK mantle affecting Harry's sperm?
« on: January 17, 2018, 08:05:01 PM »

   My guess is not, because the Knight is human and remains human, he doesn't transform over time into a Fae...  So other than the higher risk for some birth defects due to Murphy being in her forties now, the baby would be all human with possible magical talent from Harry's side.   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Questions about the fae.
« on: January 17, 2018, 03:27:22 PM »


    In my opinion, Mab hasn't totally lost her soul.  However it isn't something she wants anyone to know, because she feels it makes her vulnerable.   She exposed her "humanity or soul" to Harry when Maeve died, admitting that she was indeed human once in Cold Days.  Kringle knows and warned Harry about exposing that fact to anyone because Mab will then do her best to prove to everyone that she hasn't one.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Court Anit-Love and Blood Rites
« on: January 07, 2018, 07:14:15 PM »
I've noticed the touching thing, too. Not with Lara, but with Thomas and Harry. Someone said Arthur might've been wearing a long-sleeved shirt, which is possible. Or Lara could have had gloves on, but the idea that she was reining in her Hunger is more interesting. However, in the same book, Thomas describes how Lara and another vampire got sick after touching a love symbol (Lara even has the scar), so I don't think merely keeping the Hunger in check is viable.

Instead, I wonder if Arturo is an old-fashionable man and refused to consummate his relationship with his fiancee (or if she made the choice and he went along with it. I remember she said he falls in love easily). That way, he wouldn't have been protected from Lara's touch, as physical intimacy seems to be the key to it. Anything other than non-loving-sex could be considered platonic.

As for Thomas, he burns when he touches Justine because... the demon loves her, too? If the Hunger is capable of feeling love (and it understands the emotion enough to know it hurts it), then feeling it would be self-destructive, so it doesn't matter how much control Thomas has over it (and he has a lot, as he was able to feed off his clients without killing them), near Justine, the Hunger goes crazy, like Gollum (love her/hate her).

The  love between Thomas and Justine is true love, that is why he could not touch her until she had physical sex with someone else..  Remember she invited a gay woman friend at the end of Ghost Story?  Since though she might be mildly bi-sexual, she isn't gay, so the gay sex counts to break the true love lock that prevented Thomas from touching her and at the same time in their minds at least since she isn't gay stayed faithful.

Love tokens like a wedding ring or a rose can burn if they were exchanged in true love.   It's complicated, the best theory I
can think of is the Hunger Demon feeds on carnal lust and the "hormones/emotions" that calls forth, but true love is on a higher level...  Kind of like getting too near the sun,  the Hunger Demon feeds on the light and warmth until death of the victim.   Think of true love itself as the sun, touch it and you burn up.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nick's Goal in the Vault
« on: January 02, 2018, 11:58:04 AM »
I'd have to agree, Nicodemus is not the sort of guy to go into a situation with only one plan to win if he had any choice in the matter.

Yup and he'd also know why the artifacts were so hard to get to, he always thinks he is the smartest and his spy is everywhere.  However he underestimated both Mab, who blocked Anduriel at Mac's bar, and Harry, who realized that the relics were weapons and pocketed them for himself for later study.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nick's Goal in the Vault
« on: January 01, 2018, 11:31:24 AM »
If Harry had failed Nic's daughter would not have been sacrificed because the ice test was before the human sacrifice.  Nicodemus would have been upset but Harry Dresden would have been dead (a big plus for Nicodemus), and Mab would have still owed him a favor + interest for her failure to keep her end of the bargain.

   She did keep her end, not her fault that her Knight failed..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nick's Goal in the Vault
« on: December 31, 2017, 10:04:23 PM »
Mab testing Harry is implying she does not believe him capable yet...  I believe she sent him on this mission (setting up Nicodemus to make the attempt) because she believed he would succeed, and get her revenge, not as a test.  It was clear by the end of the book she set up Nicodemus to get revenge.  I don't see Mab attempting revenge lightly.  If she's gonna try, she plans on winning.  So again, not a test.


She would get her revenge in any case, even if Harry failed to get the weapons, simply because her object was to break Nic which she did.'

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nick's Goal in the Vault
« on: December 31, 2017, 04:05:19 PM »
I don't think that Mab not telling Harry was a test.  You don't test someone like that over something so serious because it's no longer a test, it's real.  My guess is either she didn't see a reason to tell him, or even him knowing would be worse than not knowing, or part of the deal with Nicodemus meant she could not tell Harry the nature of the artifacts.


You are forgetting what Hades told Harry,  the process of inquiring the artifacts/weapons is a test... As in only the strongest and smartest is good enough to end up with them, this is the safe guard..  There are no cheat sheets,  for the war to come Mab wants her Knight to be the smartest and the brightest and holding the weapons..  Nick thinks he is the smartest and the strongest, so he thinks he is being clever just asking for the Grail, figuring he will then easily get the rest of the artifacts..  Mab is gambling that Harry is the smartest and the strongest, so he will end up with the weapons, and if not, he dies, she looks for another Knight...  Nic loses because if Harry fails he isn't going to get the weapons..  If Nic really was the smartest and the strongest he wouldn't have needed to call in the favor in the first place to use Mab's Knight.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Was Ascher telling the truth?
« on: December 28, 2017, 06:21:35 PM »
It acts like a self fulfilling prophesy. If the wardens come for you you act like a cornered animal because you are. This pushes them further over the edge.

It is even worse. The widespread believe in how the laws and warlocks work combined with how the dresdenverse works has a power of its own. Those who are out are pushed further out.

   It also deals with a problem that the Senior Council doesn't care to take the time/risk with for the disastrous results that come when they judge wrongly..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nick's Goal in the Vault
« on: December 28, 2017, 06:18:09 PM »
Here's a question .... Why didn't Nick reveal that he wanted more than just the Grail?  He told the group that much, why not say he wanted all of the relics of the Crucifixion?  I know he doesn't want to reveal too much to his enemies, but if he had said he wanted all of them, then Harry would have been obligated give him all of them and not just the Grail.

When he told Harry and crew about what he was wanting, Harry didn't know they were weapons, so it could have been wrapped up in the need to fulfill the obligation to Mab.

Because if he did, the whole mission wouldn't have happened, or that is what he was thinking.   Personally I think it was like a line from "The Lion In Winter..."   Nic knows they were all weapons, Mab knows that they are all weapons, and Nic knows that Mab knows..."  The only one who didn't was Harry, who Mab happened to be testing further in my opinion... Don't be shocked if she is very aware that Harry pocketed the rest of the weapons and that they are just where she wants them...

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DF Spoilers / Re: In This, The End of All Things, I Come Out of Lurking
« on: December 23, 2017, 11:26:01 AM »
There is another woj about Molly that seems to suggest she is less of a primary character in the dresden files at least when he was starting out with respect to the grand scheme of things.  I really do agree that Murphy will go the distance till series end.

Depends, if Harry is 200 years old at the time of writing his files, then she is long dead, she may however be the last significant woman in his life..

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