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DF Spoilers / Re: Has Eb ever messed with Harry's mind?
« on: July 22, 2021, 06:08:47 PM »
Possibly. Eb was in town at the beginning of Proven Guilty. Some tampering might explain some of the weirdness in that book.

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DF Spoilers / Re: 2 Questions from PT & BG
« on: July 22, 2021, 05:58:44 PM »
We've seen the Denarians outright control their hosts before. Thorned Namshiel wasn't depicted in human form before the Marcone reveal, right? In Small Favor, he's transformed the whole time, as far as I can remember. Maybe he had to hijack the body completely during Proven Guilty.
Or maybe the host wasn't ever Infected to begin with, and has been playing a completely different game from the ones we've seen thus far.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Murphy Family Reunion
« on: July 22, 2021, 05:54:07 PM »
I just lost a good 800 words, so this is going to be shorter than I intended originally.
Anyway: I like the idea of Odin and Uriel trading people like baseball cards. And I personally believe the loophole is going to be Ragnarok; every source for that part of the mythology I've found specifies that Odin leads the Aesir and all of the Einherjaren into battle against Fenrir, which would presumably include Murphy.
And the whole "I'm here but can't stay" inevitability is probably already going to happen in Mirror, Mirror, presuming Murphy doesn't hate Dresden in that timeline. That's where I assume Harry will find his catharsis. Maybe with some other lost characters, too.
On Ragnarok: I don't know where Jim intends to source his interpretations. It could be the Poetic Edda or the Prose Edda, but Snorri did a LOT of editorializing in the 13th century, and directly contradicts a bunch of stuff from the original, surviving Old Norse texts. He really seemed to want to impose a kind of order to Norse mythology that didn't really exist in what you'd consider their canon. For example, Snorri directly states that those who die in battle go to Valhalla, while those who die of disease, accidents, or old age are sent to Helheim, which is a clear-cut rule that is nowhere to be found in the older material. The closest thing to that kind of rule is that Odin and his Valkyries will "choose" from among those who've died in a conflict, but it's not really clear what criteria they use, and it doesn't stipulate what happens to those who weren't chosen to be an Einherjar.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing Jim's interpretation of Loki. The real one from mythology, not the bastardization we have in these Marvel movies, however entertaining Tom Hiddleston might be. I wonder if he's currently sleeping under Demonreach. Are there snakes there?

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Red Court vs. The Fomor
« on: January 15, 2021, 09:03:37 PM »
Jim used 12 books to set up the Reds. And he built them up so they had menace.  For instance the attack on Archangel, you only see it in the reflection of it's results and it's scary. One of his better pieces of storytelling.

On the other hand here come the Fomor kill all the humans and then talk trash. Then declare war.  I can imagine every reader thinking, WTF?  What was the Titan thinking? Tell the enemy that you're coming and give them time to get set? This is like the allies telling Hitler that they were hitting the beach at Normandy on D day at first light and inviting him to concentrate his forces there. How dumb is that?

I'm gonna be uncharitable and suggest that this is the result of the book being split. He needed a break for a boating trip to Demonreach. It makes the Formor look silly without intending to be.
I think it might've been effective without Marcone. Seeing (an apparent) vanilla mortal stand up to a Titan who just kicked Mab through multiple walls and declared war on the planet, then immediately turn around and start giving orders had an impact. It was the best scene in Peace Talks, bar none. You saw the ghouls turn and try to leave. I wouldn't have been surprised if others followed. But the point is that you had someone there to shame everyone who was thinking about bailing into staying. Maybe Odin or the Erlking would've filled that role without Marcone, and it probably wouldn't have been terribly effective, but it might have convinced one or more factions that fighting was stupid. I'm 99% certain Ferrovax wouldn't have done... whatever the hell he was doing during BG without the public display, at least.

Anyway, on topic, I agree. The Fomor appear to be pretty weak and fairly chumpy as villains. Kind of like that season of Buffy where the main villains were three nerds pretending to be supervillains, and who managed to kill one of the core cast and drive another into murderous, insane rage. Chumpy and lame on their own, and their planning really does suck, but hey, we've lost more major characters in the few books they've been on the page than we did in the entire series up till now.

The other side is that Harry is WAY less of a chump now than he ever was when the Reds were a threat. We all know the details of his powerups since Dead Beat first gave him Hellfire. He's got a lot of serious power now, and allies to match. Plus his attitude is different. He didn't go looking for fights when the Reds were the boogeymen. Now he freezes background jerks to death just to make a point.

I don't think the Reds would've come off nearly as threatening as they used to if Harry met them now. I think most of these villains are probably just as chumpy as the Fomor are.

Except for Cowl, Marcone, Nicodemus. You know, the ones who mostly focus on outmaneuvering Harry rather than trying to beat him in a fistfight.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« on: January 15, 2021, 08:27:33 PM »
I find the timing weird for Justin to have been (whether he did it personally or had help) behind it. Harry is in the orphanage for four years between his father's death and Justin's adoption. It feels off to me that Justin would kill Malcolm and then chill out for four years until Harry develops his talent. That isn't to say that Justin wasn't watching, though. If it was a year—maybe two—I might be able to see it. But four years is a long time to wait after committing murder.
The one person we know had contact with Harry while he was in the orphanage was Lea. And I could see Lea offing Malcolm, possibly (or maybe even probably) as part of her bargain with Margaret (the agreement WOJ claims would drive Harry to immediately attempt to kill her should he ever learn the full details). And Malcolm might have smiled when he died if he knew it was for a good reason—particularly if it was Margaret's reason.
Pretty sure Lara or Papa Raith offed Murphy's dad, though.

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DF Spoilers / Re: So what is next
« on: January 15, 2021, 07:48:02 PM »
I think the plan was for the next book to be The Olympian Affair. The YA series was (last I heard) going to be co-authored with his sister. The way he described the process sounded as though they would collaborate on an outline and he'd move on (meaning his sister would do the writing). Kinda like what RA Salvatore did during the War of the Spider Queen series in the Forgotten Realms (though hopefully something better and more evenly characterized).
Only thing we know for sure is that Mirror, Mirror was pushed back, and another full novel has been added to the main series (currently titled "Twelve Months).
https://www.jim-butcher.com/faq/upcoming-works
That hasn't been updated this year yet, but it claimed that the next novel Jim is writing is The Olympian Affair, book 2 of the Cinder Spires.

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couldn't be raised if her immediate & extended families are still alive, but i suspect it won't matter when Ragnarok comes
Yeah, I don't think Ragnarok counts, exactly. Something tells me Murphy will be there.
And yeah, Murphy will change, but I don't think Valkyries recruit Einherjaren and they lose who they were. If they did, what would be the point of being selective? Just pick good warriors and the job's done.
Decades in the future, Murphy will have had a different perspective, but I think she'll still be Murphy. Kinda like switching jobs, or becoming a parent, or any number of things that alter your outlook, plus time spent. A salesperson moving over to accounting will have different views after a while.
Murph already changed after losing her badge. Instead, she became a warrior and a guardian. Seems like that's pretty much what she can expect from Valhalla, down the line. In the meantime, it's just mead, partying, and training for a while.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What happened to Carlos Ramirez?
« on: January 15, 2021, 07:20:26 PM »
Personally, I think Carlos will play the part of the virgin for the eventual Dresden Holy Grail quest.
*cough* Galahad *cough cough*

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DF Spoilers / Re: Why imprison Thomas in Demonreach
« on: January 15, 2021, 07:17:10 PM »
This makes no sense because he was willing to confront the outsider on the boat where he had access to none of the resources of Demonreach.  If he was too weak, then he should have made up some excuse to stash Justine somewhere else.  Not confront her on the boat. 
I think his thought was "I cannot let Justine set foot on Demonreach." The idea was for the Island to imprison her without taking her there. That's my reading of it, anyway.

As for Thomas, Harry's reasoning is that Thomas's Hunger is turning inward and he is about to turn feral, or die. If Harry brought someone to feed Thomas's Hunger, Thomas would undoubtedly kill that person in his current state. So stasis was the solution to prevent anyone from dying until he can figure out a way to keep Thomas alive.

But for meta reasons, it's to remove some characters and trim things down a bit. Murphy and Thomas out of the picture for a few books will make things leaner and leave more room for new players (or for older characters to take on a bigger role, like Lara). I mean, they're both in most of the books pretty extensively.

Oh, and also it gives Harry something to be sad about that is also a solvable problem.

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DF Spoilers / 1066, Hastings, Stamford Bridge, and the Outer Gates
« on: December 29, 2020, 09:36:27 PM »
Hold tight, because this is a long one. I thought I had posted the following claims and hypotheses a couple of years ago, but I cannot find that post. I did, however, find a Word document that held a big chunk of it, but was unfinished. Here follows my thoughts on Hastings (which has been mentioned too many times for coincidence), and why I think that, Stamford Bridge, and the Norman Invasion were the "last time a Starborn was running around."

Before I start, my claim: I think William the Conqueror was a Starborn. I think Hastings, and (perhaps more importantly) the Battle of Stamford Bridge represent the last time control of the Outer Gates changed hands. I think Odin and the Norse pantheon used to serve that role. I think Hastings itself was the conflict in which the Winter and Summer decided which Court would guard the Gates.

Evidence:

Word Of Jim, from the KC Signing circa 2013:

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You said the Winter, rather, Knights’ mantles change fairly often? How often do the Ladies’, Queens’ and Mothers’ mantles change?
Uh, the Ladies, Queens and Mothers, their mantles change very, very, very rarely in general. I mean, Mab’s been there for better than 1,000 years. And Maeve’s been there….there was a Winter Lady before Maeve, uh, in Mab’s time. And she didn’t fare so well the last time a Starborn was running around. And so….Mab and Maeve, um, **unintelligible**, I leave things here, don’t miss ‘em.

I'll do my best to break this down as clearly as I can. It's probably best to start with some background and important details from the Word of Jim above:

Mab—and presumably Titania—have had their mantles for "better than 1,000 years." The Battle of Hastings, which kicked off the third (successful) Norman invasion of Britain, and ended the Anglo-Saxon line of succession permanently, was in 1066, for those of you who weren't aware. The conflict itself was basically one of succession—William, Duke of Normandy, was contending for the throne, which was held by King Harold, who was childless; William was his cousin (something like once removed).

But the conflict for the throne wasn't limited to the Normans and English: King Harald Hardrara, of Norway (Read: Vikings) wanted in on the action. But they got surprised at Stamford Bridge by the Anglo-Saxons, and were wrecked; out of more than ten thousand across a few hundred ships, only a few dozen ships made it home.

The following may or may not be related to the rest of this, so I'm spoilering it to keep this as tidy as I can:

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Now, the Age of Vikings was well on its way out at this point, but their defeat at Stamford Bridge was pretty much the final nail in their coffin. Their influence on the world—especially Britain—was waning, and this ended it completely. Before this, if you look at transcripts of Calendars and records kept by monasteries in England, Viking invasions were basically a yearly occurrence. It was an ongoing joke with my thesis adviser that every entry ended with, "In the Summer, the Vikings invaded."

I believe strongly that Stamford Bridge represented what was taking place in the supernatural world: a transfer of power from Vadderung/Odin to the Faerie Courts. I believe this conflict effectively ended the Norse Pantheon’s stewardship of the Outer Gates. I don't think that influence is a simple binary transfer, and that there was a tumultuous period that ended with Stamford Bridge, and that the Fae had to establish their own pecking order afterward, which culminated in… Hastings.

The first major, major clue in the books (which sparked this line of thinking for me) came in Cold Days. Titania states that she and Mab haven't spoken to one another since Hastings.

To me, this implies that something happened there that fundamentally altered their relationship. I don't think they were best friends—in fact, I think they were opposites since at least their Ascension. But I believe their conflict was more... cordial before Hastings, to the point that they would, at the very least, engage in conversation, the way Harry and Marcone do; they're fundamentally enemies, but they'll work together if they have to—such as when gathering power for their Courts (and all of Faerie) or defending assaults from the outgoing King of the Hill, Odin.

I’d like to review a few facts before I get into further supposition and theorizing.

1. Jim has stated that Mab has held her mantle for “over 1,000 years.” Unless the DF is actually set a century in the future, that means that the Fae Courts definitely existed during Hastings, and that Mab was the Queen of Winter.
2. The Winter Lady before Maeve was killed.
3. [The Winter Lady] “didn’t fare so well the last time a Starborn was running around.”
Originally, I had thought that Hastings was when Mab and Titania became Queens of their Courts. However, the WOJ above kind of makes that impossible. Something prior killed both Queens of Faerie, something dating anywhere from 500(ish)–1,000 AD. It’s entirely possible that there was a conflict going on between the Queens during Saint Augustine’s spread of Christianity to Britain in 595. It’s possible that the Vikings were involved. There was a lot of conflict in England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales during that period. The Danish invaded (and settled there), there were conflicts over succession, etc. It is also worth noting that I believe this to be the period during which the White Council in its current form was founded by Merlin.

Now, the Word of Jim on the “1,000 years” piece might have been disproven entirely by Peace Talks. This line, spoken by Corb during the initial attack on Marcone’s Castle, is a big, fat, honking, stinking cluebat that smacked me squarely in the face and left me a senseless:

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“Old woman,” Corb taunted. “I remember you as a bawling brat. I remember your pimply face when you rode with the Conqueror. I remember how you wept when Merlin cast you out.”
Peace Talks, Chapter 29, page 276 on Nook.
“The Conqueror” is the appellation given to William of Normandy, the winner of the Battle of Hastings and King of England. There is obvious subtext here, and it actually makes me believe my earlier theory that I thought had been disproved by the WOJ!

Unless there is another “Conqueror” with which Mab rode, this means that Mab’s face was still “pimply” when she rode with William—in other words, a teenager, a young woman—and decidedly not the Queen of Winter. I think Corb was just being an a**hole when he used the adjective “pimply” (because I doubt that any Faerie Queen would really suffer from facial blemishes the way vanilla mortals do). 

No. I think that Mab was the Winter Lady at this point. For how long, I’m not sure—in fact, it may be a way to reconcile the WOJ and Corb’s taunt: Mab wasn’t THE Winter Queen for over a thousand years, but was A Winter Queen for that long.

One last note on the major players here:

“Odin” has been “Odin” for a long time. Before he was king of the hill in the Norse Pantheon, Gaul traditions held stories of “Woden,” a kind of wizard-like figure who was known for bravery and cunning. His story morphed into Odin over centuries. This is important.

Now, finally, I will get into the series of events that I think took place. I’ll try to be as clear as possible.

1. The Norse Pantheon held Stewardship over the Outer Gates for a time—or, at least, Odin, Woden, and any other “masks” (his term) he wore did. I think his stewardship ended with the Norse, however.
2.  Odin’s influence began to wane. The spread of Christianity throughout Europe likely limited his reputation over generations. I don’t think it works on American Gods rules, where belief = power, but I think it does matter. The important bit is that other challengers began to rise up.
3. The Faerie Courts begin gaining power and influence over mortal affairs. They grow significantly for a while. They influence politics. But the Summer and Winter Courts are still opposed; they aren’t working in concert. One seeks to rule the other.
4. Their political gamesmanship starts coming to a head on January 5th, 1066. The King of England dies. Succession is complicated, and several people claim the throne is theirs. Winter aligns themselves with the Normans (William). Summer aligns themselves with the Earl of Wessex (Harold).
5. Seeing a chance to weaken his strongest opponents (and likely foreseeing the death of King Edward), Odin’s own champion, Harald Hardrara, King of Norway claims he was promised the throne.
6. Harold (Summer-aligned) is crowned King. Them’s fightin’ words. Odin-aligned forces move to attack England. The date: September 25, 1066 (Gregorian). (September 19th, 1066 in the Julian Calendar—may or may not be important).
7. Summer is prepared. They attack the Viking forces at Stamford Bridge, and win. Odin retreats. It’s possible that he was distracted by an attack on the Outer Gates at this point, else I suspect he could have committed more to the fight. Regardless, the battle was lost, and Viking influence dramatically contracted permanently afterward. (This is pointed to as the end of the Age of Vikings by historians).
8. A few weeks later, William the Conqueror lands in England. The Battle of Hastings ensues. William (Winter) wins, and, essentially, becomes the King of England at this point. The date: October 14th, 1066 (Gregorian). October 8th, 1066 (Julian).
9. Here, I believe, is where the Queens die. I don’t think they fell during Hastings, but in the desperate clashes that were happening in England-Above-England. I believe that Winter and Summer clashed alongside the Normans and Anglo-Saxons.
10. I think their fight lasted for weeks. William’s fight wasn’t quite done after Hastings, too: he marched around England putting down resistance wherever he found it. He was crowned King until December 25th. In other words: the conflict continued for weeks afterward, and may very well have continued during Samhain, when Immortals can die.
11. The Queens kill each other—or, possibly, William kills them. At the beginning of this post, I claim that William is a Starborn. I think it’s possible that he was a Starborn, and might have been a Wizard for all we know (he kind of has to be for the 666-year clause to fit).

Here, now, my line of thinking is much less certain. I see two most likely possibilities, and trying to square either one of them with WOJ is difficult. Which one is correct depends on the starting state of the Faerie Courts.

   A.   Mab and Titania are already in the Courts, as Ladies. The Queens die, and they both ascend. Their daughters become the next Ladies.
   B.   Mab and Titania are humans (or changelings). The conflict between Courts is so severe that the Queens and the Ladies die. Mab and Titania then simultaneously become the Ladies, and then immediately ascend to Queen. Their daughters become the new-new Ladies. Note that it may not have been “immediate.” It’s possible that the Ladies died, Mab and Titania were Called, and then the Queens died. But the Ladies had to die first.
Winter won Hastings. I believe they also beat Summer, and became the “greater” of the two Courts.

Whichever of the above happened, I finish my claims by stating that, in the aftermath of Stamford Bridge and Hastings, with Norse influence waning and the Courts growing, Odin abdicated his role as Defender of Reality, and Winter—the entity of the next greatest power and influence—took over. Summer, which lost the struggle against Winter, was granted enough power and influence to serve as the check against Winter. (I assume this role was previously filled by Jotunheim during the Norse stewardship.)

And that wraps up my thoughts on Hastings, Stamford Bridge, and the Outer Gates.

Arguments and criticisms are welcome.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dresden Files show
« on: December 29, 2020, 05:02:15 PM »
@Kindler: The FMA style of animation is my favorite except for when they go cartoony in some scenes. E.g., https://www.reddit.com/r/FullmetalAlchemist/comments/f2p6yk/alphonse_is_the_best_character_in_fullmetal/
Heh, yeah. There's a name for that art gag, but I can't remember it. They do it at least once an episode in Brotherhood, and once every chapter or two in the manga. Not exactly my kind of humor either, but I still love the visual elements of the combat, particularly as seen in the final arc between
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though I'm a sucker for hopeless fights.
Kinda annoys me when you compare it to current anime, like My Hero Academia. There is a ridiculous amount of potential for grand battles, but I find most of the fights visually boring. Closer to Jojo, which are all about "HA! YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT!" moments. Too much narration, not enough martial arts. The closest things to good fights were Stain and the vampire girl, what's her name, and that's only because they don't have powers you can really see. Meanwhile you have Deku punching (more recently, KICKING! WAHOO!) things, Bakugo blowing things up, All Might also punching things, and Todoroki freezing and/or burning things. Like.. come on. I'd like to see FMA-style fights set in that universe.

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DF Spoilers / Re: An amusing thought about Proven Guilty
« on: December 29, 2020, 04:27:05 PM »
Do you mean that the Winter Lady was possessing the Scarecrow similarly to how the Summer Lady was possessing the chlorofiend?
(I do enjoy how Dresden deliberately names it and then has to follow it up with "plant monster" every time he actually uses it in a sentence).

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@vincentric: The favor he called in was an army. So Eb literally raised a loyal army. They fought and died for him. As far as we know, they had no interest in Chichen Itza.
They showed up by the hundreds. Don't call it an army if you like, but many wouldn't call a bunch of pixies an army either.
Neither did the pixies. They showed up to protect pizza. Toot seemed a little nonplussed about Harry being in danger. The Kenku were just as loyal to Eb as the fairies are to Harry. It's all about debt and obligation. As soon as Harry owes them more than they owe him, the loyalty will be gone.
I mean, soldiers are paid (at least they have been for a couple thousand years. Read "Why the West Won" for a more complete explanation on the thesis that professional volunteer armies were the primary reason that Western Civilization survived and expanded rather than being eaten up by entities like Persia (who had armies primarily consisting of slaves and levies)).
Anyway, my point is mostly just that, historically speaking, armies are loyal to the ones who paid them—or, originally, the ones who ensured they were paid (via plunder). That was a big deal from the Marian Reforms in the Republican Roman period; he basically created the concept of a permanent, professional army that was paid in exchange for a term of service (they still got plunder, but they were paid salaries too). I think they had to serve for like 15-20 years or something like that, but if they survived, they were given retirement benefits. Also had professionally made, standardized equipment rather than "bring a sword if you have one."
The most immediate result of the Marian Reforms was that armies became loyal to their commanders. It basically set up the inevitable civil wars that caused the collapse of the Republic system. Julius Caesar (Marius's nephew by marriage, by the way) eventually took advantage of this, with Octavian really seizing the reins after his assassination.
Anywho, the point is that armies (good ones, anyway) render loyalty and service in exchange for payment. The Za Lord's Guard is Harry's standing "military" force. It even has a General (Major-General?) They expand the size of the force temporarily in exchange for additional pizza—if memory serves, Harry and Toot call it the Za Lord's Militia. The Guard is paid a regular salary, and has been receiving that salary since Storm Front. And Lea (or Mab?) made sure to continue paying them when Harry was dead. I think Molly covered it when he was stuck on Demonreach.
What Eb did in Changes is, I would argue, qualitatively different from what Harry did. It's closer to Marcone hiring the Einherjaren. They're Marcone's to command, but they're not his army. The Guard is most definitely Harry's, regardless of their motivation.
I think it's entirely possible (maybe even likely) that the Senior Council could call on forces similarly to Eb. But I don't think they have ones on tap. I mean, I'd expect they'd have done so in Battle Ground if they could have. But hell, the Merlin didn't even show up to fight personally (which I really would've liked to have seen).
On that note... what happens when Einrherjaren die in the mortal realm? Do they go back to Valhalla? Can they fight again? Do they have... resurrective immortality?

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DF Spoilers / Re: New microfiction on the site
« on: December 29, 2020, 03:49:31 PM »
It is mainly about the let the world burn mentality and what he did to Molly. Harry breaks himself about killing Susan but that was not the point, Susan wanted it and for good reasons. I do not think the killing of Susan was considered evil at all. There was not that much attention to it given in ghost story as a thing Harry had to learn about.
Personally, I've always thought Changes was about Harry's personal chickens coming home to roost—the consequences of all of his decisions between Storm Front (really, everything he'd done since Justin) and Turn Coat. The friends (and enemies) he'd made, the Big Things he'd done, the cataclysms he'd stopped... all of it came to a head, and he was left with a terrible situation. We know how he "resolved" that. But, in my opinion, the plot of Changes was still very much happening with Harry; it was his own, personal comeuppance. Naturally, Harry's comeuppance isn't focused on making him suffer. It's centered on making someone he cares about suffer, because that's what would suck more for him. The fact that the heartripper ritual would kill him too almost doesn't even matter to him.
Ghost Story was about the impact of Harry's decisions (including the genocide and subsequent suicide) on everyone else. It's about showing him the debris field of him bullrushing through a dozen or two major events and mistakenly believing that he was the one paying for all the damage he caused. He paid for a lot of it, but not all of it; others wound up trying to cover the remainder of the bill. And now he wasn't there to even help...provide... cover for the dine-and-dash? The metaphor is getting away from me.
Anyway, I see Changes and Ghost Story as mainly illustrating two sets of consequences of The Decisions of One Harry Dresden, Mad Wizard and Defender of Little Guys: the first for himself, the second for everyone else.

On the microfiction: this kinda ties in really well with my thoughts on the Defenders of the Bean. Molly is expanding Harry's reputation tremendously here. Makes me wonder what kind of impact that's going to have later on, if any.

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I've been away from the forum for a while (nothing personal, it's just been a hectic year since the Plague broke out); I've gone over most of the threads from the past few months (at least the titles and first page or two), but please forgive me if this has been asked and discussed ad nauseum previously. Since it's still new, I'm prioritizing this over finishing a lengthy post about Hastings.

Personally, I think a lot of people may have overlooked this bit; I think it's more important than it appears at first glance.

1. At the end of Battle Ground, Harry performs a ceremony during which he knights about fifty of his volunteers from the Battle of the Bean (those who were willing to attend the funeral/memorial). He names them "The Knights of the Bean and Defenders of Chicago."

2. He gives each of them a pin with a lima bean on it, and makes this precise promise to them: "If you or anyone you love is ever in danger, come and find me. If it isn't you, tell them to show me this. I will help. No questions asked."

There are a handful of ways to interpret this—meaning the consequences of giving them favors, not really his motivation for doing so. I think his motivation is pretty clear: Harry wanted to repay them for their help; I don't think Chicago would've survived without them. It makes sense that he'd want to do what he could to help them out after they gave (and lost) so much.

But I think there are more consequences (and implications) than Harry promising a favor to fifty-ish people.

1. He balanced the scales. They rendered him a service, so he must fulfill his end of an unspoken bargain by offering one in kind. The implication here is that Harry is becoming more Fae than he was at the start of the book; sure, that's kind of obvious, and there are blatant signs starting in Cold Days about this exact thing happening. But this is the first time we've seen something like this from Harry at this scale (which is fair, because we've never seen ANYTHING like the Banner, either).

2. He gave himself an obligation. He promised to help them, no questions asked. Harry can't turn them down (not that he would unless it was something REALLY bad), or he'll face consequences.

But as Lea pointed out in Ghost Story, Harry's obligations are Winter's obligations too; Mab herself may be thereby bound to fulfill the promise if Harry is unable to. I don't know how she'll react to it if it comes to that, but regardless, this could get messy somewhere down the line.

3. Harry has set himself up as a kind of... I don't even really know. A Champion?
In my head, this promise is similar to what Harry's done with Toot Toot since Storm Front. One of my favorite scenes in the duology was everyone coming to a dead stop when Harry called up the 'Za Lord's Guard and the sky was blanketed with the Little Folk.

His relationship with them was originally based on obligation and payment; as Harry continued to keep his promises with the Little Folk, Toot Toot got bigger and more Fae joined the Guard.

It's not exactly the same—humans aren't going to double in size because someone kept a promise—but I think that there is some kind of exchange of power taking place here.
I've mentioned many times on this forum over the years that Mother Summer's words in Cold Days—"Power has purpose"—has made me wonder if the inverse is true: "Purpose has power."

It's literally true for the Fae: they can gain power literally by bargaining (in other words, by acquiring a purpose and fulfilling it). We saw it with the explanation of Fidelacchius's transformation in Peace Talks—it gained power by limiting the ways that power can be applied.

In other words: I think that Harry did more than he intended to with this Knighting ceremony. I think he not only gave those fifty people a bit of power (I don't mean literally; for them, the power they received is the ability to ask a guy who can throw fire around for a favor), he received some in return, beyond what he was given by their service on the battlefield.

I don't know how this power will be expressed in the future. It may be something as (relatively) small as a part of the Legend of Harry Dresden—the rumors and whispers spreading about the "Mad Wizard Dresden," who very well might show up and burn your house down if you kick the wrong puppy. It's been stated that Harry's reputation is a big part of what has made him effective in the past; he's almost a Terror Hero at this point. Maybe this is just going to spread that reputation even further, and that'll be it.

Maybe some of these Knights of the Bean will show back up in the future, too. Maybe we'll find out later on that being called by the Winter Knight's Banner once makes it possible to be Called once more. Maybe they'll join the base of Power Harry is working on from his Scottish-by-way-of-Chicago Castle.
Or maybe they'll be used as a framing device for the upcoming Twelve Months piece that I've seen mentioned. If it's one story per month, it could be narratively useful for Harry fulfilling twelve favors, or something (and it'd be nice if it didn't require any incineration or flash freezing).

Does anyone have any other thoughts? Am I overthinking this to begin with, and is this mostly something Jim put in there because it was cool?

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