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raidem,

Here is an example of that form of Time Travel....fly in an airplane.  You time travel when you do it.  Frankly, you time travel when you drive in a car (though the effect is so small that it can not be measured).  Any time you move...even walking...is time travel...just do the math with relativity.  The difference is that backwards time travel is not possible in the real world.

@beetnemesis,

I guess my theory is that there are 0 inconsistencies in PG.  None.  Which is the point of my theory.  That the entire book is entirely self-consistent and has a complete conclusion.  What it doesn't have is a wrap up that explains it front to back.


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@bestnemesis,

Things come back 10 years later in this series.  Faith Astor is set to come back at the start of BAT.  You may not have cared, but other's do.  And PG is the book with the least tied up answers in most people's mind.  That is because all of this is recently relevant in the series.  For example, it is where (if we had known) we saw an nFected Maeve.  That and the Black Council are still important enemies.

Finally, Time Travel is a horrible answer in this series.  If I were Harry and I time traveled from the end of the series I would:

1 - Go back in Time and Kill Cowl.
2 - Ditto with Peabody
3 - Same with Arianna
4 - And the rest of the Red Court
5 - And heck while we are at it the Fomor

If you can not see the problem with going back in time, then remember this - if you can...do the "Kill the bad guy" thing before it becomes a problem for Harry.  Why would TT Harry just not wait at Molly's, Kill the Fetches, and move along.  He knows they are showing up.

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@wardenferry,

1 - Those are the answers that are pretty standard.

2 - The one thing to me that stands out is the timing.  WHY attack then?  What was different?  The only answer I have is Molly.

--- As a note, this is the thing that made me come up with the theory.  They have years and years to attack Mab in Arctus Tor, yet they only do so when Molly is there.  I am stretching the text with this, because we have no exact timing of the attack.  It just seems unlikely that Mab would leave her gates blown up for Months and Years.  So I am presuming that the attack is recent to when Harry shows up.  Molly has been there for at least overnight.  It is not exactly clear the time difference from Molly being there to Harry showing up, but it has to be on the order of 12 hours. 

3 - Those are the standard answers.

4 - I lean to Ace because he continued to try to kill Harry...for example he could be the Murphy Car Bomber in WN.

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@raidem,

Actually all you did is post about your theories.  I put you on ignore about 3 years ago because this is my opinion of what you do.  You post about what you think repeatedly.  With the forum's going away, I removed that.  So how about this, make a post critiquing what I wrote without mentioning anything that you have ever posted.  Compare what I wrote to the text of the books and WoJ's, etc.  The point of the exercise is to see how well what the Theory Wrote compares to the information that we have. 

You have posted the same stuff for years about time travel and alternate realities and such.  My theory is that NONE of that happened in PG.  That there is NO Time Travel NOR is there any Alternate Reality NOR is there any Special Connection, except as I have spelled out.  This was Mab saving Molly.  In a Mab way.

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warden,

I just re-listened to PG.  There are 2 interactions on 1 trip.  No growls at Marling.  Yes, Mab wanted to give Harry a clue.  That was a secondary outcome not a primary outcome.  Because Harry received all kinds of information and had no idea.

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Thank at least 1 person for discussing my theory.  I went from the WoJ (I think it was) that we could discover the point of PG by looking at what came out of it.  Most everyone noted the BC attack, but the main plot of the book was patently ignored.  So, I said...suppose the main plot of the book was actually the main plot of the book.

However, I think the Mouse thing is trivial to explain.  Molly had recently done Black Magic.  Mouse reacts to evil actions not to potential evil (otherwise he would have had problems with Thomas).  As Molly got more distant from this and potentially changed direction, Mouse changes his views and likes her.

NOTE:  The only reason I type this is that Sandra Marling meets Mouse twice during the book and he has no noted reaction to her.  That (to me) pretty much seals it that she is not a player in the game.

I would greatly prefer if you want to have a thread about another theory...that you make another thread.  Thanks!

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PG is considered a book that is very thick with unanswered questions.  This theory makes it actually a quite simple book.  A book where the main points are actually called out directly...mostly by Harry.  The problem is that it only makes sense post-Cold Days.

The main questions are:

- Who sent the Fetches?
- Why did the Black Council (maybe we should call it The Circle per WN) attack Arctus Tor?
- Who fixed Little Chicago?
- Who hit Harry's car?

The answer lies in the future roles planned for Molly Carpenter. Mab's desire to have her and Harry positioned for future work is the driving force of the story.

Remember this is all kicked off by a letter from the Gatekeeper.  We now know that he hangs with a lot of folks from Winter and is working with Mab to defend the Outer Gates. His message was about Black Magic in Chicago.  Harry gets this message right after the execution of a Warlock.

Molly, at this point, is a Warlock and clearly on a downward slope.  Charity admits that she had problems and future events (particularly TC, Changes, and GS) show that Molly is touched by darkness.  Imagine that Harry does not act.  I would consider it likely that Molly would be full Warlock and be executed.  The primary outcome of PG is that Molly is saved from immediate Warlockdom and is Harry's apprentice.

Molly has come to the attention of the Black Council somehow.  That is why they are in the picture here.  The entire scenario would be set up for Glau to monitor Molly's progress to evil.  I agree with Harry that Glau was a cutout and that leads to the answer to the next two questions.

Mab sent the fetches to kidnap Molly to keep her away from the Black Council.  They were upset enough about this that they attacked Arctus Tor.  Mab fights them off but keeps things open for Harry to rescue the girl.  She wants Molly bound to Harry and wants her in place.  She needs to judge Harry's capability.  So she sets up a difficult but not impossible rescue scenario (I have no use for weakness.).

That means it is Mab that fixes Little Chicago.  She does so because she wants Harry to succeed in his rescue.  This is similar to the help she gave him by calling Thomas in CD.  I want to point out that this plot is similar to (in some ways) the Archive in SmF.  Mab tried to kidnap the Archive so that the Denarians could not (and failed).  In the PG case put Molly in instead of the Archive.  She does not make these things easy for Harry (remember the line about preparing Harry to become Winter Knight). 

The other thing that gets accomplished in PG is that Mab shows Nemesis to Harry.  He does not recognize it but it is called a sickness and several nFected sidhe are part of the story.  If Mab is listening in to the conversation at Mac's with Maeve, then she would know that Maeve in nFected right then.

Finally, Ace likely is the one that hits Harry's car.  He is likely the bomber of Murphy's car in WN.


TL:DR  PG is all about getting Molly to be Harry's apprentice.  Mab has a difficult rescue set up for Harry to test/prepare him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: harry killed another mortal with magic in Cold days
« on: October 06, 2017, 07:27:18 PM »
"and it was still self defence."

1 - Harry was put on double secret probation when he killed in self defense.  See Justin.
2 - Hannah Ascher was declared a Warlock for killing in self defense.


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"My timeline puts him at 59 for PT.  He could conceivably be as young as 57 if he stole the "Marcone" identity and used it to join the military early."

I am 57 and was born in 1960.  At 59, he would have been born in 1958.  That means he would have been 17 at the time that the US left Vietnam (1975).  Not impossible, but I don't know how many brand new troops we put in the last year or so.  Most Vietnam Vets are early to mid-60s at this point.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Which absent villian will appear in Peace Talks?
« on: September 08, 2017, 03:43:50 PM »
Going through each candidate listed:

1 - Cowl/Kumori under their Black Council roles are not members of the Accords.  As this looks to be held under the Accords, they have no seat at the table.

2 - The Raiths are not really absent.  They had a role in Cold Days, though Thomas was the only member "on screen".  Lara specifically participated.  Lord Raith is unlikely to travel to a meeting when Lara can represent him.

3 - Mavra is a possibility, but I don't see her gain in being in a place where lots of folks would want her eliminated.

4 - The Eebs have 2 problems.  First, they may not be alive.  If the Blood Curse did not get them, the Erlking's folk might have.  Second, it assumes that they are well and released by the Erlking.  Given that they violated his territory (and their Guest Rite) and his stated use for them was to entertain his followers, not sure why they would let them go if they are alive.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Better Guns for Dresden and Co.
« on: July 20, 2017, 04:50:13 PM »
In other words, as I said...the rules exist to make the stories work and don't think to much about it.   Read my section on phones.

See the whole notion that Jim puts forth makes no sense for something like the scene in the Van in PG.  Here is Harry - in a panic - tossing around magic...and the van works perfectly.  And he is inside the van directly above the transmission.   Why didn't it lock up? 

So my view of this again is don't examine it too closely...there is a whole lotta...it is this way to make this story work.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Better Guns for Dresden and Co.
« on: July 20, 2017, 04:26:27 PM »
I think we need to basically say that the technology interactions are problematic in the series and that no single theory can explain them.  They are there to make the plot work.  Let me give some examples:

1 - Guns:  Okay how about old guns...The Colt Model 1911 (aka a 45), Thompson Sub-Machine Gun, the M2 Machine Gun, and a Gatling Gun.  Now that Harry is the Winter Knight he should be able to hold and wield any of these and manage the recoil through clever use of ice.  All of them were invented for or used in WWI with the exception of the Gatling Gun which is US Civil War era tech.  Given the "WWII" nature of the tech challenge, none of these should be impacted by Harry.  So automatic weapons should be completely available to him.  Please note that he used VERY modern ammo in his shotgun during Small Favor...so ammo does not seem to be a problem.  I recognize nobody would walk down a street with an M2 but a 45 is no bigger than some of the crap he has carried.

2 - Phones:  Okay he kills cell phones, but I am more interested in his interference with Landlines.  In the earlier stories in particular, this was a problem.  Now if he was smart he would have had an old style rotary dial desk phone.  Technology perfected in the 1920s.  Pulse dialing still works today.  Now the problem might be on the other end of the line...but the standard for cable length in the US Outside Plant in a Regional Bell Operating Company (RBOC and given this is Chicago this is now AT&T formerly SBC formerly Ameritech) is 12,000 ft or about 2.5 miles.  The tech used is older than in cell phone - which Harry does not blow up walking down the street.  So, it seems to me that impacting tech 2.5 miles away when you are not impacting tech in the next room seems dubious.  The kind of patch cord switch that is used in Edinburgh is a much trickier proposition.  The allocation of functions that worked in the days of patch cords is not true today and without very special arrangements would be greatly problematic.  The loss plan and echo cancellation and where it happens has moved.  It would make this very old fashioned model a problem for network operations.  The same could be said with a stepper motor based switch, but I think there are one or 2 of those still in active use.

3 - Computers:  Remember Dead Beat and Butters and the GPS?  Okay....so clearly Electro-Mechanical Waves pass through circles or we would not have had a functioning GPS.  That means well Harry can have a completely modern computer and have it connected to the Internet!  How so?  There are 4 problems.  One having an unbroken Circle around the computer...transmitting power to the computer...transmitting some form of Wireless Internet....being able to interact with the computer.  All of these interactions can be accomplished by transmission of E-M energy across an air gap.  The first is pretty easy.  Telsa himself wanted to transmit energy through the air.  For Harry it can be even simpler, with the use of magnetic coupling to turn an linear motor.  The second is trivial as well...use wireless...remember Harry clearly does not interfere with cell service throughout Chicago.  He interferes with nearby Cell Phones and so you locate the hotspot inside the circle with the computer.  The 3rd was a problem for keyboard and mouse until I leaned about shaped magnets.  This would allow for the creation of completely mechanical devices to interact with the computer across an air gap.  Use the shaped magnets to represent different key strokes on a keyboard (shape and location being key).  Mice are essentially location based anyway - so are detectable through an air gap.  And poof Harry has a computer.

All of these items would essentially destroy our enjoyment of the stories but are supported by the reading of any of the books.

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Just an add on thought here...

So, we always talk about Mother Winter's Walking Stick as the being's stick not the position/title/mantle's stick.  It would seem to me that the easiest way to get the stick would be during a transition of mothers.  That would imply that the current mothers were replaced at the time of Hastings, thus leading to the promotion of Mab, etc. 

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Should I feel offended?
« on: October 29, 2015, 02:54:04 PM »
Actually, I don't think that they were meant to be fictionalized.  But if you look at the way people are portrayed the Auroran's are honorable and highly skilled.  The actual "bad" people in the story are from Albion.

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The one thing is that Mac is neutral under the accords, but when the Outsiders came - he treated the pub as not neutral ground.

If it was an Accords member, the request to "Send the Wizard Out" would have been met by Harry going out to fight whatever.  You aren't supposed to fight in Mac's as an accords member and at least one place it says that you are not supposed to taunt someone into violence.  Given that they are Mab's accords, Harry would be compelled to follow them and meet an Accords member.

Instead Mac acted to defend his place.  He told Harry and Thomas to kill the Outsiders.  This means not only does he know them, but he does not act neutrally to them.  As on my post in Serak's thread, compare this to his demeanor on the island.  Back to neutrality.  If the Ladies blow up the island, he would shrug.  But let an Outsider show up and he is ready to throw down.  To me that is our biggest clue.

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