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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: Yesterday at 10:02:18 PM »
I'll be surprised if we get any explanation that's satisfying.  Well, beyond a long internal monologue by Dresden that rests on a foundation built on a reading of 'All You Need is Love.'  I'm not expecting the readers will get anything close to an explanation of how the universe Butcher has built all works and comes together logically (even one that's at the descriptive/predictive/Newton level and not at the fundamental/'why does it work that way' level). 

After Twelve Months, I have a creeping feeling that the conclusion of the Dresden Files will reveal that the entire series was 'True Love Conquers the Outsiders.'  If that's all there is, then let's just keep reading and hope for a rollicking, enjoyable remainder for this yarn even if at the end we're left with a lot of Lost-esque unresolved loose threads.
I am ok with True Love Conquers the Outsiders but I hope the unresolved loose threads are not "a lot".

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: Yesterday at 05:43:53 PM »
No, I meant mind-wiped into not remembering that he had sex with someone else.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: February 11, 2026, 06:23:04 PM »
Yes, I considered Harry could have been mind-wiped.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: February 11, 2026, 09:31:42 AM »
I need to reread 12months yet. Was Lara afraid of burning in 12M? If she isn't , we can safely say that True Love is broken by death of the person you loved. If Lara was still worried about burning, even after Murphy's death, then we know death alone cannot destroy True Love.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: February 10, 2026, 07:28:24 PM »
I would agree, but Harry burnt Lara in PT/BG.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: February 09, 2026, 07:05:07 PM »
But that is what I meant. It has been clearly established but in order to have True Love protection you need to be very, very, very in love with someone who loves you in return AND have sex with that person. That is when you got the Protection achievement. Then, if you have sex with someone else, willingly or not, that is broken. I imagine if you just stopped loving someone or get in love with someone else, that breaks the protection too.
That is why is so difficult to explain what happened to Harry's protection, he was protected in BG. Then he is not. Murphy died, but that is never given as an explanation for the protection breaking, and Harry clearly did not sex with everyone unless he did it and forgot (not the first time it would happen in the show) or stopped loving Murphy. That is why Mab explained the thing about Harry not feeling worthy and being guilty and all that. And...that is what many of us don't like.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: February 09, 2026, 03:05:59 PM »
But only sex with the loved one can seal True Love, right?

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: February 09, 2026, 03:38:15 AM »
As I said before, there are many, many instances of TRUE LOVE to be such a rare, super special thing.
Harry-Susan
Harry-Murphy
Thomas-Justine
Inari-boyfriend (I don't remember the name)
Avernite mentioned werewolfy, I don't remember. Will and Georgia?
Also, given their sons, I bet Maggie-Malcolm had True Love too (That is headcanon, not proven in the books, but come on, you know I am right).

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In the aftermath of PT and BG, a lot of Carlos hate was thrown around on this site and others, Carlos is blind, dump, should trust Harry etc, etc. In the post 12 Months discussion there is little being said about Carlos and Harry interactions ,and Eb and Harry's interactions.
What do you mean? I saw a lot of discussion about how Carlos and Harry suddenly seem chummy again.
I don't know. I think Carlos  had time to think and realize he was in the wrong. I am glad for that and I welcome him, but for now I won't apologize.

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DF Spoilers / Re: [12M spoiler] From thirteen puppets you are now twelve?
« on: February 04, 2026, 11:15:18 PM »
Ok, then I am back thinking Mab captured Lea 1/13 and she expects to have Justine one soon too.

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DF Spoilers / Re: [12M spoiler] From thirteen puppets you are now twelve?
« on: February 04, 2026, 08:34:02 PM »
Agree with Winter and Demonreach.

I also thought Mab had trapped the one in Lea, but she then said "vanquished" and I am not sure what the word implies in this case.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months Discussion Thread
« on: February 04, 2026, 05:44:58 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#:~:text=Depleted%20uranium%20(DU)%2C%20also%20referred,isotope%20235U%20than%20natural%20uranium.

That is a very long article, it mentions the toxicity, weak radiation and even the non-military uses.

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DF Spoilers / Re: [12M spoiler] From thirteen puppets you are now twelve?
« on: February 04, 2026, 05:37:25 PM »
I imagine Cat Sith is on the wind and I am not sure if Nemesis just jumping from a host won't kill it. I am not sure why it remained in Justine, but I imagine it has something to do with the baby.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Book Tour
« on: February 04, 2026, 05:32:41 PM »
I don't think so but who knows?

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DF Spoilers / Re: [12M spoiler] From thirteen puppets you are now twelve?
« on: February 04, 2026, 05:28:14 PM »
Nemesis is the Outsider He Who Walks Beside.

This. And Mab said she vanquishes one so I think what happened is that she literally sent the thing in Lea to the Outside. I don't know how but the tricky part seems to be to capture the host and split it from Nemesis, because just killing the host means that Nemesis is free to conquer another one. Instead,  if it is sent to the outside, it can't be back (at least, for now Mab is operating as if sending it to the outside removes it from the game).
I also think Nemesis has puppets in all the major groups. That is why I said it would be funny if there was a nemfected blampire who was casually squashed by Harry. But in truth, I think Drakul would have probably spot the puppet.

Kurtis, I know you meant Optimus, but your Optimistic made me laugh. Self-correct, right?

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