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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: December 27, 2019, 09:24:28 PM »
I didn't read a book once because of it's ridiculous cover art. Years later, my brother highly recommended the book. I ended up loving it.

Agreed. And he usually manages to do it well enough that the inconsistency can be explained away.

On Butters and such. I always assumed Shiro was Shinto. Death Masks doesn't specifically mention what religion he was before he "converted." Shiro serves "Heaven. Or the divine in nature. The memory of my fathers past. My fellow man. Myself. All pieces of the same thing."

Sanya isn't an atheist. He's a Trotskiest. "Because it must be done. ... For the good of the people, some must place themselves in harm's way. some must pledge their courage and their lives to protect the community." That's what he believes in.

I don't know what kind of Jew Butters is. There are a lot of atheist Jews and a lot of pious Jews, but Butters faith is in stories.
For the Knights, it isn't about what religion they are; it's not about faces, skin, flags, membership lists, files. "God sees hearts." It's about what they believe in.

With that context, it would make sense for Butters to where a red cross. The imagery of a knight would appeal to Butters.

Shiro professed to be a Baptist. He discusses it in Death Masks. The whole "I found out I had become a Baptist. So I tried to be a good Baptist," conversation. He considered being a Baptist... incidental (I think that was the word he used).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Unidentified Winter Knight Abilities
« on: December 27, 2019, 09:10:03 PM »
I'd like to add that Mab smashed Harry's head into an elevator hard enough to leave a Harry's Head-Shaped dent in it, and Harry walked away without a problem.

Blows to the head like that are pretty damn dangerous. I've seen my share of concussions over the years, and that's the exact kind of hit that should have caused one (sudden, a hit for which Harry could not brace, and with likely much more than the 60 g's typically cited as the approximate amount of force to cause a concussion on impact). Plus all of that force was focused on Harry's head. The elevator denting robbed the hit of some of its force, but not enough for Harry to just... get up and walk away a minute later.

From that one example, I hypothesize that either:

1. Harry did get a concussion and he simply didn't notice it (that happens; one guy in my old HEMA group didn't realize he had a concussion until a couple days later) until some time after Skin Game;
2. Harry got a concussion, but the Winter Mantle suppressed the typical symptoms immediately (dizziness, memory loss, etc.) and it accelerated the healing process so much that he recovered quickly, before the suppression stopped working;
3. Harry was not hit hard enough to get a concussion;
4. The Winter Mantle has some kind of... durability enhancement ability, so Harry can withstand more punishment. Meaning he actually IS more resistant to injury, not just the pain that comes with it.
5. Harry has been hit on the head so many times that this new concussion just blended into the background of his old head injuries (if he wasn't a wizard, he'd be a poster child for CTE).

I think two and four are most likely.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Peace Talks' Release Date Announced!
« on: December 16, 2019, 05:30:00 PM »
Later than I'd like, but I'll take it, yo.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Which mortal might become nemfected?
« on: December 09, 2019, 08:22:31 PM »
Nemesis may not need an object to spread. It may be possible through some other means.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: December 06, 2019, 04:58:37 PM »
I agree with most of it, but I disagree about first books. I think The Sorcerer's Stone is almost perfect and I think the writing is better than SF. That said, I completely agree about Butcher learning faster and I think he is now a much, much better autor than JKR.

My issues with the first books of both are that they mainly fall into the same trap. Most chapters are pretty much "I went to a place, and this thing happened. I left that place." Tons of first books fall into the same pattern. Iron Druid was a particular offender throughout the entire series, and Alex Verus would have fit it if Jacka's chapters were shorter. It's the kind of thing that comes from writing based on a rigid outline, mostly (though not really in Jim's case; it's formulaic, but I believe he wrote Storm Front pretty much as he went). Outlines are great, but I prefer it when books don't read like an outline.

Sorcerer's Stone was mostly about the wonder of uncovering a secret world, and it's got a fair bit of wish fulfillment baked into it (poor, abused Harry is saved from a devastatingly poor home life and is revealed to be not just special, but wealthy and famous, and he's a star athlete based on some kind of natural talent). It's fine for what it is, and I like it well enough, but I'm not the target audience for it.

And yeah, Bad Alias, some of the details of the supernatural creatures were retconned a bit, but the point is that magic itself functions in the exact same way from Storm Front through Skin Game. And Harry didn't even know that there were multiple Queens until Summer Knight.

The thing about Vampires is that White Court vamps don't follow the same rules. I assume that's what you're talking about. Because Red Court + Black Court can't do thresholds, and have never been depicted crossing one. So it's not "some breeds," it's "one breed," and that's because they're born human (and still apparently have trouble calling on their Hunger after crossing one). I think Harry even stipulates

In Storm Front, the only thing I recall about the Nevernever as it relates to vampires is that they wouldn't be able to rip someone's heart of their chest with a simple spell on the mortal realm, and would have to do it in the Nevernever. That rule gets twisted in Changes, but that took countless human sacrifices and a leyline, which is the kind of thing you'd notice in Chicago (and way too much effort to kill a mob enforcer). The only other thing I can remember is their "corporeal form" bit, which I took as a reference to the Red Court fleshmasks, which we see in Storm Front.

The Chauncy bit is kinda whatever.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: December 04, 2019, 08:05:27 PM »
I bet Jim wishes his books sold that well as well.  Having read everything from both of them I think Jim is better though his stuff is not as kid friendly. :)
No contest. Jim's a better writer. Now, at least. Though I think he was a better writer in his first book than Rowling was for hers.

Point is that Jim learned pretty fast. His characters feel like people who might really exist. Harry, Ron, Hermione, and most of the rest of the cast read like an adult's interpretation of the way teenagers behave and speak. The interpersonal conflicts (the many arguments between the main power trio, the feuds with some of the other Houses' students, etc.) stank of manufactured drama, and frequently made me roll my eyes. Add on that Potterverse magic runs mostly on whimsy (with a bunch of "Laws" tacked on in the last book that are contradicted by earlier books; for example, Mrs. Weasley is seen pouring sauce out of her wand, yet food cannot be created by magic. I mean, Snape teaches Malfoy how to conjure a freaking live snake out of nowhere in less than a minute (and it IS a real snake, because Harry was able to talk to it). Snakes are edible! Hermione knows how to conjure BIRDS for crap's sake, but she can't create a chicken?! So the "law" only means that "you cannot create fully-cooked, prepared meals" not "you cannot create food." That "law" only exists because Rowling wanted the trio to be hungry). The contrast between Rowling's approach and Jim's is pretty stark.

Magic in the DV has been consistent from book one. The rules were obviously thought out beforehand, and I can't pinpoint anywhere they're broken. In fact, half the fun of a lot of scenes comes from Harry finding a new application of the rules, or a loophole, or something unexpected. Unlike Harry, who mostly yells "Expelliarmus" and "Stupefy" while brandishing his wand.

I like Harry Potter. I reread that series every year or two. But it doesn't hold a candle to Dresden in setting, plot, or characterization.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Proven Guilty final iteration.
« on: December 04, 2019, 06:56:55 PM »
Potential counterpoint: the lights went out in the hotel during a confrontation in which a significantly-powered Ward was thrown up. It's possibly the result of mortal magic use.


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DF Spoilers / Re: DF's B B E G
« on: December 04, 2019, 05:26:35 PM »
I think it's mostly the Outsiders as a whole. They'll be personified by their named villains (the Walkers, Nemesis, maybe an Old One or something, too), but they're the only group that is in complete lock step, according to Harry. They're working toward a unified goal, and I'm pretty sure that would mean the destruction of the universe. I do not know if that will also destroy the various parallel universes, but I'm not betting that it wouldn't.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Which mortal might become nemfected?
« on: December 04, 2019, 05:18:48 PM »
I think that if Peabody were Infected, he would have spread Nemesis to the Senior Council ASAP. He was using mind-affecting ink instead of transmitting Nemesis itself, which would be the logical way to do things, in my opinion.

Though that may be explainable by the process of Nemesis Infection itself. Jim hasn't revealed the precise method of transmission. If it requires overpowering someone and holding them down for an hour or something, then that's going to be difficult for someone like Peabody.

What we know about that:

1. It should be possible to spread Nemesis via an inorganic object. The object itself may or may not need to be sufficiently powerful on its own. The Athame could have been used for a couple of reasons that I can see: either it's necessary for the object to have a certain level of power (Athame, the Swords, relics like the Holy Grail or some other kind of artifacts), or it simply had to be powerful enough to tempt Lea into trading for it.

2. It's possible to Infect someone quickly, like they did with Cat Sith. He was off-page for about, what, five hours? Ten? Cold Days all happens within a 30ish-hour period (Harry leaves the party for Chicago sometime after midnight but before dawn, and the final confrontation on Demonreach is before Dawn on the following day. 2-3am-->1-5am, in my opinion). But the point is that, between the time Harry first talks to Lily and Nemesis is revealed and the Wild Hunt v. Outsiders Cage Match, Cat Sith is captured and Infected.

3. Those who are Infected can be made aware of their own Infection. This means that Nemesis works best when it lays low for a long time, slowly altering the Vector until they're behaving in the way Nemesis wants. When Cat Sith was confronted with his out-of-character behavior, Nemesis was forced to take direct control. I take that to indicate that he was a rushed job, because we haven't seen that behavior from other confirmed Infected (namely, Maeve).

4. There is likely some kind of cost for Nemesis to spread to too many things. This is speculation, but I think that, if Infection was a free action for them, then they wouldn't have stopped with Lea and Maeve. I think that most of Winter would've been Infected. Maeve was Infected for years, and she has the time, power, and clout necessary to go around and Infect countless other Fae, but didn't. Either that means that there is a cost to spreading itself to too many different entities, or doing so would have had undesirable results—like maybe the Infection would've been noticed and stopped sooner.

It's also noteworthy that Lily wasn't Infected, despite the fact that Maeve spent lots of time with her, and doing so would've been easy enough. Instead, Nemesis opted to manipulate her. Why not Infect the new Summer Lady? Why is manipulation a better option? Surely it would've been advantageous to have both Ladies Infected and influence both sides of the Fae, right?

I therefore infer that there is some kind of cost associated with Infection. Either Nemesis can maintain a limited number of active Infections, or there is some other kind of cost I can't conceive at the moment.

5. No mortals have been confirmed to be Infected. Some insist that mortals can't be Infected at all, but I don't see why that would be the case, and haven't seen any evidence beyond "No confirmation of Infected Mortals = Can't Be Done." Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

6. The most powerful entity that is confirmed to be Infected was, at one point, Lea (in her own words, she's second only to Mab in Winter). Mab tortured her (or, at the very least, put her through "exquisite pain") to "cure" her of the Nemesis Infection. That means that, even if it can't be fully cured, the symptoms can be treated if the host wants to change. Lea is shown to have the "mad glint" in her eye once, briefly, after her treatment by Mab. It is possible that Nemesis remains within Lea, but is currently held at bay by something (maybe even simple negative stimulus conditioning, like that "How to Stop Being a Freemason" Monty Python sketch). It's also possible that Nemesis is gone, but the effect on Lea still lingers, and she must make the occasional conscious effort to suppress it.

That is all that I can recall about Nemesis.

On topic, I think that the likeliest mortals to be Infected in the future are:

1. Senior Council members. Any of them, really.
2. Kumori, if she isn't already. Cowl, too.
3. Fix. I think he'd be a good target.
4. I don't think it will happen, but Infecting Murphy would break Harry just as badly as her death would. In fact, it might be worse, because he'd be crazy enough to hope to fix it.

Those who may already be Infected:
1. Elaine.
2. I hate to say it, but Justine.
3. Christos.

I say Justine because of the shape of her character arc. She's gone through some radical changes throughout the series. Like, really, really big ones. In fact, when she reveals that she's regained her faculties to Harry (in White Night? I can't recall), she simply states that there's no time to explain how she's recovered, and it's never revisited. And now she's having Thomas's baby, which gives her leverage over Thomas, the White Court, and Harry. I think it's possible that, during her period of disability, she was Infected, and Nemesis managed to not only help her recover faster, but increase her influence in the White Court. Can you think of another mortal who worked so closely with anyone in the upper echelons of the White Court? Certainly not for as long as she has. Lara defends her with her life, and not just because Justine is important to Thomas.

That's my WAG about it, anyway.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: November 26, 2019, 03:21:59 PM »
It's almost certainly a result Penguin picking a time that will be best for their balance sheet. There are industrial concerns (still gotta print, produce and execute a marketing plan, book speaking engagements and promotions, etc.) Penguin's got the juice it needs to rush all of that, but wouldn't if they didn't think it was worthwhile. They're likely thinking that Peace Talks is going to be a bestseller regardless of its street date, and they're probably right.

But they also don't want to cannibalize their own sales on other books; most readers don't buy more than one book at a time. So they want to find a good release window to prevent Dresden from negatively impacting the opening week (or weeks) of other books. Also have to look at competing books in the urban fantasy or adjacent genres; they want to make sure Peace Talks will win the week it's released.

The final reason they may be delaying is they may want to prop up an otherwise lackluster quarter. Releasing in January or February can be a good way to kickstart their Q1 (and 2020) revenue sheet. January usually has pretty good book sales, but it's mostly in nonfiction stuff (which dominates the sales charts as it is). So stuff like Jordan Peterson's Rules for Life or other self-help books will probably dominate book sales since everyone is still convinced that they're going to keep their New Year's Resolutions. But it's not a great month for fiction, after everyone's blown through their gift cards (and people are still recovering from Holiday shopping spending). February is usually a pretty weak month for books (and for all of retail except florists, Hallmark, and jewelers), and it's a couple shopping days shorter (only one or two since it's a Leap Year), so a major blockbuster release like Peace Talks will make them look good.

The good news for me is that my friend and I are going to reschedule our bet. There was a stipulation that if there is no announcement by Black Friday, we're going to have the opportunity to alter our chosen dates. So I might not be out five hundred bucks after all (my bet was on last Tuesday).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Proven Guilty final iteration.
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:16:16 PM »
I think it's possible that Rashid wasn't detecting Black Magic at all, but merely saw some of the results of black magic use in Chicago. As in, he saw the possibility that Molly would be tried and executed by the Council. I think it's an important distinction, because I don't know of any way GateBro could detect Black Magic over an area as large as Chicago. I mean, he has to manually check the Sidhe at the Outer Gates for Nemesis. We don't know that he can really sense Black Magic taint without being at or near the location in question—but we do know that he can take peeks into the future.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:07:22 PM »
Oh yeah, there's a reason I went through the obnoxiousness of doing it that way. When I'm dealing with 150k word documents, I'm not going to spend several eight-hour days typing everything out.

And to be fair, the latest iteration of the Adobe Cloud suite's Acrobat Pro does a reasonably good job of exporting PDF to Word. Still get a lot of the line break weirdness, and God help you if there are any design-y elements, but at least most of the paragraphs remain, you know, paragraphs. The thing with the quotation marks often depends on whether or not the original document used the fancy "smart quotes," which are stylized and curve toward the enclosed word (the ones in this post do not have smart quotes, so they'd be fine about 95% of the time).

I was doing this as a side gig about 10-11 years ago, when eBooks were still in their infancy. Sigil wasn't released yet, and Calibre didn't have any editing capability at the time (if it even supported EPUBs, I can't really remember). Big chunks of the work was done using Word's HTML editing. I don't know if that's possible in Office 365 anymore—at least, not like it used to be. Back then, a lot of the publishers I'd worked with were still using PageMaker or Quark. InDesign had replaced both pretty completely in terms of feature offerings years earlier. Publishers have never been precisely quick on the uptake of new things, though.

So, they'd lay these books out in PageMaker, and refuse to provide me with the source document—neither the Quark or the PM file, nor the Word/WordPerfect/Scrivener/whateverthehell the author used ("PROPRIETARY," they'd shout. "YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY NEED THAT!!!") I'd have to make do with the PDFs they provided. Thus did I venture boldly into the unknown field of eBook preparation.

At the time, I was freelancing as a writer/editor, and it was a random gig I was offered by one of my clients (these are smaller publishers, before most of them got eaten by Penguin, Harlequin, and the other few Last Men Standing). Sort of a, "Hey, can you turn this document into one of those electronic books?"

I kinda knew what I was doing, but not really. But when you freelance, there's no such thing as a job you can't do. "Sure, I've done that plenty of times! Send over the file, and I'll give you an estimate." That night, I downloaded a ton of software to see if I could find a solution that's basically automated, but none existed. It was pure grunt work. The next three weeks were dedicated to learning HTML as I went, which was easier than I thought it'd be (syntax, yo). I had to learn all about the ways PDF screws you over. But hey, I got it done, and the publisher paid more for that job than they ever did for editing. That's the value of a totally separate skill set, I guess. So I started offering that to these small publishing houses looking to break into this whole "digital book" thing.

Now that whole job would be just about done just during the editing phase. As long as your breaks are in all the right places and you use MS Word styles correctly, generating a clean EPUB or MOBI is pretty much a matter of file conversion. Can take a little finagling, but not much, and you can do spot-fixes quickly in Sigil. So they can do the print layout in Word or whatever for the most part, and can basically just convert that source file to whatever you want.

Kids these days have it easy, I tell ya huwhat.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: November 20, 2019, 07:49:49 PM »
I doubt her copy had been copy edited (edited for grammar and such) and proofread yet (for clean pagination and such).

That reminds me of some stuff I noticed in my last reading of Blood Rites. I think it might be the worst (copy) edited book of the DF. I noticed so many mistakes (for a Penguin book, at least). The funniest one was "Harry said" instead of "I said."

Copy editing + pagination is the shortest step in the process. When I did it professionally, a Peace Talks-length book would be the work of about two weeks, if I really dragged my feet. That includes generating the clean EPUB/MOBI/AZW3 files for eBook sales, laying out the document for printing, adjusting the kerning if they went with justified text (I'm a ragged-right proponent, because kerning blows—but eBooks are justified by default, so you have to do it anyway), etc. I had to learn HTML to make sure the eBooks were formatted nicely. I've read some pirated copies of Jim's books (I had already purchased the eBook iterations, but needed EPUBs with no DRM so I could copy + paste from it for some presentations on modern novels; I'd never steal from Jim). All of them had some of the worst formatting errors I'd ever seen. They looked like they were copied and pasted from PDFs.

For those who don't know, PDFs are a fixed-layout file format. No matter what screen size you're using, page 53 will always be page 53; you have to zoom in/out and scroll around to view it if you're looking at one on a phone. EPUBs are dynamic; they scale down to whatever you're reading on (a few years ago, they tried to roll out a fixed-layout EPUB, but it never took off because it's a terrible concept). But anyway, word processors tend to interpret all of the formatting in a PDF precisely. So the end of a line in a PDF will get a hard line break when you copy and paste it into Microsoft Word. That means you have all of these weird paragraphs with random breaks spread across a whole document. It's a real pain to clean that kind of thing up (there is no quick fix; you have to go through it and delete the breaks, fix the spacing, etc.)

Anyway, about 90% of the pirated books I've looked at (again, I owned them all already, it was only done for presentation purposes, hand to God) have been formatting horror shows. One of the copies for one of the Codex Alera books lacked quotation marks throughout the whole text. Some of the books had the infamous "I don't know what this character is supposed to be" blank, empty squares all over the place (some of the conversion programs and OCRs have trouble interpreting various punctuation marks if the fonts aren't Times New Roman (and some even if it is TNR)).

But anywho, when you have a Word document to start with, on the other hand, formatting everything perfectly is easy as heck. The only sticky parts are when you have images within the main document (children's books and cookbooks are annoying that way). But pure text? Pshaw. It can be done nicely in an afternoon. Unless, you know, Jim does things like manually press "Enter" twenty times to start a new page (page breaks, people. Ctrl+Enter.) Widows and orphans, adjusting the hyphenation, kerning, all that stuff can be done pretty fast.

I seem to have wandered a bit. The point is that Penguin should be done with that whole process by now, especially because (I assume and hope) they have multiple specialists working on each part. Still has to be done in stages (widows and orphans can fix themselves, justification changes when characters are added or deleted, etc.) but specialists can usually do their one task efficiently. It's been a month since Priscillie announced it, and I'd assume Penguin had it before her. Should be set by now, or close enough that it's not worth considering.

And as for copy editing mistakes: there is no such thing as a perfect document, not now, not ever. Any editor can look at any document and find things to change or mistakes to fix. The trick is to catch the ones that anyone would notice. Questionable comma placement is one thing, but mess up the tensing and everyone will say, "Gotcha!"

I caught the Blood Rites "Harry" mistake too, and rolled my eyes when I saw it. Whoever edits Terry Brooks's novels should be fired, for that matter, because all of his novels have extremely noticeable mistakes. I'm currently reading The Witcher novels (finally, I've been putting it off for years). Whoever is responsible for editing the translated text needs to learn how semicolons should be used, because they're all over the place. Not one has been correct, but they've all been wrong for different reasons.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How do Wizards make a living?
« on: November 15, 2019, 06:08:58 PM »
Most banks aren't prepared for a magical assault. A wizard could walk in under a veil or an illusion, hold the place up, step into the bathroom, and come out through a Way that takes him a thousand miles away in minutes.

The point is that you can escape REALLY easily. Mortal authorities will not be able to catch you unless you're careless or stupid. And, if you're a wizard-level talent (assuming you'd have to be in the first place), nobody would even know who was responsible in the first place. Hell, I'd make an illusion based on my worst enemy and wear a nametag. "My name is Sally Fields, and I am here to rob you. Also, I'm a horrible racist!" News headline:
"SALLY FIELDS ROBS BANK IN BRAZEN HEIST, DISAPPEARS WITHOUT A TRACE"
"RACIST ASSAULT BY SALLY FIELDS ENDS IN $250,000 STOLEN IN DAYTIME ROBBERY"

Gangs would be even simpler. Just go in disguised as a rival gang member. Put tracking spells on whoever you have to to find out where they keep cash. And it's not like they're going to call the cops. I mean, crap, we saw Gatekeeper put everyone but Harry to sleep across water, at the drop of a hat. If I could do that, there is pretty much nothing anyone could do to stop me. If I couldn't, I'm sure I could learn enough evocation to get it done. If I couldn't do that, it's all about trickery and illusion. If I couldn't do that, I'd shanghai some faeries into getting the cash for me.

There are so many options that it makes me wonder why there aren't more wizardly criminals.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Ebeniezers special staff
« on: November 15, 2019, 05:56:43 PM »
Jim confirmed it without confirming it.

Quote
What are you going to tell us about who stole Mother Winter’s walking stick and the person who has it now? Uh, we’ll get there at some point. You should be able to figure it out, because it’s in the book. That’s stuff that I, uh, I don’t like to throw lots of new stuff in when there’s old stuff that I haven’t used yet, I’m fundamentally lazy as a writer, I like to make things connect. There’s already been a half dozen people who said, “Hey wait, it must be this!” and I’m like, yeah. But yeah, that was, uh, I’m kind of tempted to write, I keep being tempted to write the French-Indian War in the Dresden Files universe. Because it’s really interesting, there were a lot of things going on at that point in time. Except, to do that, I’ll have to learn about the French-Indian War.

Context: Ebenezer and the Merlin were both involved in the French and Indian War. So he talks about the Mother Winter's walking stick, then an event previously confirmed to involve Ebenezer as if they're related.

There's also another WoJ somewhere else where he pretty much responds so sarcastically that it's confirmation. Like, someone asks him, and he goes, "What?! Why on earth would you think that?! That's crazy!"

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