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DF Spoilers / Re: Small Favor - Arbitrator Choice
« on: February 11, 2018, 11:18:50 AM »
I'm wondering if it's maybe not so much the distinction between freeholding lords and supernatural nations, as it is pure power.

It's a bit unclear to me what the Unseelie Accords really mean in this case - but the challenge Harry levied may well have been more or less 'respond to our challenge or face war' rather than what we assume 'respond to our challenge or be in violation of the Accords'.

So, Gard might fear the Denarians could just shrug off being challenged by Monoc, feeling they could accept their emnity (and, at worst, being declared war on) while they could not afford that even with a distracted White Council (who are, notionally, the lynchpin of the supernatural balance of power). And Nick would know that and act accordingly.


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DF Spoilers / Re: What theme song would you have for any character or book?
« on: February 10, 2018, 12:58:49 PM »
It feels to me like every story of the Dresden Files has a positive note in there. This tends to render most metal songs a bit unfitting; they tend to the dark side.
Likewise, any actually positive song is out (as a story themesong) because the stories do tend to have the negative side too.

That said, there's no reason to ignore them for personal themesongs!

For Molly after Cold Days, I am partial to Oonagh's "Märchen enden gut" (fairytales end well). The German distracts a bit as Molly is certainly not German, but the sound and essence seems to fit to someone who is holding on very hard (and possibly failing in the future) to the idea that even through the bleakness, fairytales will end on a positive note.
Alternatively, Frozen's "Let it go". Not nearly dark enough for Maeve, but Molly "unchained" would fit with the song.

For Mother Summer/Winter, I'd go for Celtic Woman's "The Voice", with a upbeat sound but also such gems like "I am the voice of your hunger and pain".

For Mab, Within Temptation's "Ice Queen". Should be obvious enough. Though it could be applied to Mother Winter as well.

For Lasciel, Within Temptations "Angels". Again, pretty obvious - it is all about a false saviour of a fallen angel. But it has the deception angle too - this is not an obvious dark angel like many of the Denarians' partners, it's a seemingly helpful angel who turns out dark (and who gets a proper kicking at the end of the song).

For Butters, Prince of Egypt's "When you believe". The realization circa Skin Game's end that, indeed "who knows what miracles you can achieve, you will when you believe". Plus a bit of Hebrew thrown in for good measure.

For Uriel, Prince of Egypt's "through heaven's eyes". Nothing says Uriel quite like this song's sense of: in the big picture you're doing great, but sorry, you can never understand quite how.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cold Case - Molly's Truth
« on: January 30, 2018, 06:13:57 PM »
I'm more wondering if such statements in some sense can affect Winter Law, when uttered by one of the Queens.

That is, maybe from now on all Winter Fae are unable to abandon their vassals/allies harmed by their own mistakes.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Court Anit-Love and Blood Rites
« on: January 12, 2018, 05:24:33 PM »
Probably with the myth and stories about romantic love. There is a lot of believe invested here and that is power.
And not in motherly love?

I suspect if you make a fair summation it's below romantic love in mythical intensity, but we're looking for a difference in not just degree.

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DF Spoilers / Re: White Court Anit-Love and Blood Rites
« on: January 11, 2018, 07:24:15 PM »
The  love between Thomas and Justine is true love, that is why he could not touch her until she had physical sex with someone else..  Remember she invited a gay woman friend at the end of Ghost Story?  Since though she might be mildly bi-sexual, she isn't gay, so the gay sex counts to break the true love lock that prevented Thomas from touching her and at the same time in their minds at least since she isn't gay stayed faithful.

Love tokens like a wedding ring or a rose can burn if they were exchanged in true love.   It's complicated, the best theory I
can think of is the Hunger Demon feeds on carnal lust and the "hormones/emotions" that calls forth, but true love is on a higher level...  Kind of like getting too near the sun,  the Hunger Demon feeds on the light and warmth until death of the victim.   Think of true love itself as the sun, touch it and you burn up.

The weird thing is we never seem to hear about any other love than the romantic kind sufficing. Sure, the soul-soul contact is pretty intense during sex, but so presumably is that during breastfeeding, yet there's no general trend of virgins (whose last extremely intimate contact would often be with someone who loved them) being protected. Note trend, not saying it's a total certainty.

So there seems to be something else going on. Something deeper, more specific, than just intimacy backed by love.

I am running on thin ice, obviously, but an attempt: Romantic love is a kind of ongoing sharing of soul between equals. Where a parent's love might seem to be a way to 'feed' the child's soul without quite the same in reverse, a romantic love is a bi-directional feed. And as the hunger demon attempts to feed on the soul, the soul is not really just there, but also elsewhere (namely with the loved one). The demon tries to munch anyway and as a result is halfway ripped from the body of the vampire, even when the other lover is close, because it's a metaphysical rather than physical distance. The demon could eat on, but it would be permanently dislocated and the vampire-body will die, leaving the demon untethered and forced to return to the NN, before it can do permanent damage to the lovers (after all, a WCV can feed quite deeply without killing).

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DF Spoilers / Re: The KotC after the BAT
« on: January 05, 2018, 08:53:17 AM »
What are the angels and gods supposed to be? I remember something early in the series about all non-terrestrial creatures being denizens of the never never, so I’ve always viewed all of these magical beings as variants of faerie type beings.
Eh, they're distinctly not a faerie-like being.

I think it's Bob, but otherwise Lash, who explains Angels are all-Soul. I don't remember the specifics of where I read the rest, but apparently Sidhe (and presumably other Faeries) are Body and Spirit. Humans have Soul, Body, and Spirit.

What this makes the Queens given their Soul-having origin is anyone's guess.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: December 29, 2017, 10:35:53 PM »
Eh, I see plenty of opportunity for both the film to have the correct answer and be utterly misleading:

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DF Spoilers / Re: Random question about Nickelheads & Summer
« on: December 29, 2017, 10:26:37 PM »
Avernite,

I can see Maggie Sr as being a conduit from the Vampires to the Wouncil.  I'd bet that the Vamps knew who her father was and they were looking for a better representative from the Wouncil than a dark sheep like Maggie Sr.

I could totally see them not telling her that they wanted to take over Humanity.  That may have been why she finally broke free from Lord Raith.
That is more or less in line with what I think, except I don't think Arianna and Lord Raith would involve their pawns in the beginning of their planning.

Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if this plot was long-lasting enough that the 'dinner' was nowhere near the beginning and yet it was still the same plot played out in Harry's war with the RCV.

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DF Books / Re: F**k, Marry, and Kill- The Dresden Edition.
« on: December 29, 2017, 01:40:08 PM »
Oh, really? We have a couple of members from Sweden but I didn't know about you.

On the top of my mind, I don't remember other forum members from Netherlands, Arjan.
It's no surprise since I neither post much here nor ever told anyone, but I am Dutch too ;)

As to the thread: I'd go for Molly on the first two, which necessitates putting Mab in slot 3 (to avoid the immediate disaster).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is the most evil character in the Dresdenverse?
« on: December 29, 2017, 12:45:44 PM »
Yeah, I've noted that connection previously. Longinus's name doesn't show up anywhere else; the Gospel of John simply states "One of the soldiers..."
Nowhere in the bible; Christian martyrology (both east and west) does refer to him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nick's Goal in the Vault
« on: December 29, 2017, 10:58:20 AM »
I think there's a specific, and very clear, problem with telling Harry: Harry of all people knows the Noose makes Nicodemus almost invulnerable, but not precisely. The Spear of Longinus also makes one (all but) invincible. If Harry knew that Nicodemus was after the means to make himself two-layered invulnerable, he probably would have blown everything up.
Instead, as he discussed about the Grail with Michael, he doesn't precisely understand what Nicodemus could possibly do with it, so he was a bit more sanguine about gambling on it.

It's interesting, here, that the 'gospel of Nicodemus' is the first that goes into detail on the whole Longinus angle.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Random question about Nickelheads & Summer
« on: December 29, 2017, 10:46:01 AM »
That is what I think is happening now.  I think the vampires were trying to be the ones to take over from Winter.  The dinner that Maggie Sr, Ariana, and Lord Raith were at was the beginning of the planning.

When Eb wouldn't attend, the vampires decided that the Wizards had to be taken out so as to allow the Vamps to be able to create more troops for the defense of the Outer Gates.  Thus the plans for the War with the Wouncil.  But it was started a bit too early and they weren't able to put them away quickly enough.  The spell at Chichen Iza wasn't just to take out Harry and Eb, but all Wizards.
The question is, what was Maggie Sr's plan there?

As in, I can see why the RCV and WCV would want to take over from Winter, but not what they'd do for Maggie. She wasn't called LeFay because of some long-term hatred of all things Faerie, so that isn't a reason - in fact, it seems a counter-indication of her being part of some plot to displace the Faerie Courts.

A far more logical story, to me, is that the RCV and WCV were plotting to displace the White Council from its pre-eminence (as a prelude to taking over the Outer Gates and the human world), and Maggie wanted it displaced too (as a prelude to her installing a new organisation on human Wizards). This worked together nicely until their secondary motives started to clash - Maggie did not want a bunch of vampires to rule the human world any more than she wanted that from the ossified White Council.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Kumori's Identity (Spoilers)
« on: December 23, 2017, 01:03:57 PM »
Why would Cowl and Kumori be Harry's siblings from what I said?
This is called leaping to a conclusion :p

Harry's mom survives so has the possibility to have more siblings for Harry, who grow up to be Cowl and Kumori.

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DF Spoilers / Re: In This, The End of All Things, I Come Out of Lurking
« on: December 23, 2017, 01:02:21 PM »
Truth B
Molly and Harry?  "Oh but she's not a child now so why won't Harry bang her?"  Okay, okay, listen to me: Molly is still a little girl.  Small children never grow up - aren't any of you guys and gals here parents?  The little ones stay little forever, if you were a parent/guardian/close adult relative type of person to them when they were little.  Harry was an uncle-type to Molly for long enough that when he looks at her he sees the child.  And he'll always see the child - at least for like the next hundred years, by which time Charity will have been dead for long enough that he won't have to worry about her coming back and haunting him.
I would argue this kind of association is mostly subconcious. And Harry's subconcious has no problems at all with seeing Molly as a grown woman (as evidenced by Skin Game). So I am not sure how 'Truth' this is.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Kumori's Identity (Spoilers)
« on: December 21, 2017, 11:11:13 PM »
With Mirror Mirror introducing the possibility of alternate realities, and traveling between them, there is the possibility that Cowl, and Kumori are characters from an alternate timeline.  For example a timeline where Harry's mother survived.
So Cowl and Kumori are Harry's siblings? Kinda Ender's Game there ;)

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