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DF Spoilers / Re: Unsolved Mystery Book7 Summoning Outsiders
« on: November 10, 2017, 08:03:59 PM »
One wonders if cowl and co-conspirator are the same person, who separate ones?
It is possible, but Cristos has also been fingered as the co-conspirator.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Unsolved Mystery Book15 Tuesdays with Hades
« on: November 10, 2017, 08:01:53 PM »
Eternity probably gets pretty boring eventually.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Unsolved Mystery Book6 Lord Raith
« on: November 09, 2017, 08:06:29 PM »
I've long theorized that we'll find out that Justin wasn't really a bad guy.  He may have used rough means to attain his ends.
'rough means' as in baseballs to train shields? Not really a bad guy.

'rough means' as in thralldom? Still a bad guy.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Unsolved Mystery Book7 Summoning Outsiders
« on: November 09, 2017, 08:04:59 PM »
And the mystery co-conspirator of Peabody, maybe.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Unsolved Mystery Book5 Nico knows Maggie
« on: November 09, 2017, 08:03:40 PM »
Sorry Kindler.  I meant Harry's hatred of Marcone.
Marcone leads a more violent version of the Chicago government.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
« on: November 06, 2017, 07:50:51 PM »
Because Harry's Subconscious is meant to be a bad guy, more or less.
And girls want bad boys, in literary-world. If the ship had to be sunk, Skin Game has some decidedly weird pieces (if instead it's supposed to hang around incomplete, both Cold Case and Skin Game make sense).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nicodemus wants to be God
« on: November 06, 2017, 07:48:39 PM »
See, I don't agree.  I believe that Free-will has power over those who do not have it.  And intimately Uriel does not have it.

Further, Harry DID summon him in Changes.

And summoning circles are just for summoning, so if he is Summonable, than that circle(s) would possible do the trick.
Well... Uriel does have free will. He just only has one Choice.

This, to me, sets him apart from other beings who lack Free Will (like possibly Mab, and certainly nearly everything controlled under Winter Law). Of course Ivy also is partly human, and so locking her in a circle required a whole host of measures to block her Will simply tearing the circle apart... and I rank Uriel more powerful, so it would require a truly imposing effort to even come close to imprisoning him.

In fact, given it took an Archangel to imprison Ivy, who I rank significantly lower on the power totem pole, it wouldn't surprise me if only TWG or the Outer Gods (provided such outsiders exist) could even attempt it - and with TWG, at least, it seems obvious that Falling would have weird interactions with such an attempt.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
« on: November 06, 2017, 07:40:44 PM »
It's probably not an issue.

The Lady can't because Being Molly is Suffering/ (Plus Jim wanted to sink that ship).
The Queen can, but seriously, Mab has better things to do with her time. She's a busy lady.
The Mother? Please, she's way too Old for that shit.

Wanted to sink that ship? Then why does Harry's own subconscious support it? ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nicodemus wants to be God
« on: November 06, 2017, 06:29:06 PM »
I think we've discussed this before, but ...

If you'll recall, the circle in MacFinn's townhouse was actually three in one circles.

One for purely mortal beings.
One for purely spiritual beings.
One for a mix of mortal and spiritual beings.

I'm thinking someone with an iron will COULD contain Uriel in such a circle.

How, though? I don't think Uriel is like Mab or the Erlking in that he has to answer a summons. So he can just glance at the circle, think 'ah no' and appear outside it.

Or he can just use your Name and make you release him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« on: November 04, 2017, 12:14:38 PM »
Oh maybe morty could have done something just imagine the scene Nicodemus trying to recruit him.

And harry is a necromancer as well.
Yes, but Harry isn't good. He's the best we got, but he gets into pretty dark situations. He eventually ends up choosing the less-evil and eventually works back to good, but there's the dark phase too.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Elaine / Kumori thought
« on: November 04, 2017, 12:11:22 PM »
Kumori is someone obsessed with ending death. Someone who’s had a lot of loss or just one traumatic loss might become obsessed with that topic. Are there any characters who fit that?
Well, Demeter/Beckitt seems the most obvious one in terms of absolute obsession. But I don't think it would hurt Harry to find out he was Kumori - surprise, sure, but not hurt.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The blood of Immortals
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:38:44 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if the island is specifically insulated against such contamination. If power can bleed in, there is an opening that can be widened.

And a prison that is wide open is no prison.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:33:35 PM »
Argh!? I hope Harry doesn't have to go at it with either Mother....
I meant Queen-the-mother to be opposed to Queen-Mother (with caps). We have the maiden, the mother and the crone, but confusingly the crone is called Mother Winter/Summer.

I was referring to Mab/Titania.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:31:20 PM »
Ah, okay. There goes that thought process. Though I won't deny it'd make for a fun story.
Personally I suspect they would be swept away with the burning rage of a thousand suns, if they ever got out. St. Michael and his Seraphim are there for a reason.

The only downside is that the resulting upset of balances also happens right on earth, so all kinds of other things would be scoured away. Including, one fears, plenty of innocents.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:21:11 PM »
I do not think so. The gates were not designed to kill everyone but to weed out those not powerful and versatile enough to wield the weapons they guarded. They were tests. There might have been something but it would not have been impossible.

A fire mage for fire, a winter knight for ice and a necromancer for dead, it would have been fitting.

Except those magics aren't exactly created equal.

On the other hand, we have an example of an ectomance binding a soul back into its body, so maybe there's a more benign way than necromancy.

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