The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
so ... soulgaze? the Sight?
Dina:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 17, 2024, 07:54:35 PM ---I am inclined to agree with this. As for WOJs, yes, I know he is the author and should know what he is writing. I of course respect that and love his work. I worry that we can get too hung up on WOJs and it sometimes spoils the pleasure of reading the story and trying to figure it out for ourselves. Especially on something like sight verses soul gazing because it can give too much away if Jim tells us too much. That's why I think in the stories Harry is usually pretty vague about what others see when soul gazing him! Susan fainted, Molly felt sorry for him and wanted him to take her to bed, Eb saw anger and great talent, no word on what Thomas saw, Marcone got ideas of what he might be able to exploit, and a couple of others mentioned just not feeling afraid.. I think it is revealing that yes, Harry saw Murphy with his sight at one point in Blood Rites and saw her as an angel, that was before he made her a Holy Knight for a day, but the two of them never got around to a soul gaze, or even made a point of doing it even though they were lovers. I wonder what Murphy's take on Harry would have been had she been able to look really deep into him. Having the gaze begin just as she was dying was such a tease!
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Oh yes, it was terrible. Knowing that if that soulgaze had taken Harry would have remembered it all his life...and instead he will always remember the empty house. So heartbreaking.
And I agree with both of you about the fact that the wizards themselces probably are not aware of how subjective the gaze/sight is.
And yes, I have always said we have to take WoJ with some caution. For several reasons, including JB having the right to change his mind. But also, he has the right to hide some information for narrative reasons.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 17, 2024, 07:54:35 PM --- ... Susan fainted ...
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My own headcanon as to why Susan fainted: she was a "news of the weird" reporter, so (a) she was pretty sure there was a bit of beyond-unconventional "weirdness" out there in the world; (b) she didn't really know; (c) she really wanted there to be magic in the world, her inner-6-year-old had never stopped longing for it.
Then she 'gazed Harry... and she saw a Magic-Man of deep and profound power, and the reality of what she saw -- the depth and scope of who-and-what Harry really was -- that shocked her to her core.
Dina:
I don't know. I always thought it was because of the dark in Harry's sou (including the Walker) but I may be biased because Harry himself seems to think Susan was somehing horrible. But I am sure she also saw something good and lighter, so she did not flee.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on December 18, 2024, 11:01:50 AM ---I don't know. I always thought it was because of the dark in Harry's sou (including the Walker) but I may be biased because Harry himself seems to think Susan was somehing horrible. But I am sure she also saw something good and lighter, so she did not flee.
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I don't think Harry saw anything horrible in Susan. Actually he never has mentioned what he saw in their soul gaze. I also think at that point in time Harry was so lonely and in need of whatever kind of love he could get, he failed to see the extent of Susan's ambition and where it could lead to
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Then she 'gazed Harry... and she saw a Magic-Man of deep and profound power, and the reality of what she saw -- the depth and scope of who-and-what Harry really was -- that shocked her to her core.
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I don't think she understood a lick of it, I don't know if it was what she saw that made her faint, or shock from the fact that such a thing was possible made her faint. Yet for all of that, deep down it was her own denial that such things were real and dangerous that led to her downfall.
Dina:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 18, 2024, 12:02:02 PM ---I don't think Harry saw anything horrible in Susan. Actually he never has mentioned what he saw in their soul gaze. I also think at that point in time Harry was so lonely and in need of whatever kind of love he could get, he failed to see the extent of Susan's ambition and where it could lead to
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No, I am sorry, I meant that Harry was convinced that Susan saw something horrible in him.
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