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Ebenezar said something that confuses me and p's me off
Mira:
--- Quote ---Which means to me, why the hell was Morgan, the Merlin and anyone else on the White Council; who knows about Nemesis and what it means to be starborn, afraid that Harry was "molded to be a creature of Nemesis."? That last quote is from Morgan's Microfiction.
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Rereading your post again, I still think it maybe as simple as what Rashid said to Harry at the Gates in Cold Days
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--- Quote ---"I will do what I can. If we both survive the next several hours,I will settle matters between you and the Council, which knows only as much about our roles as it needs to--and that isn't much.
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In other words, the Council may know enough about Outsiders and Nemesis to be afraid of them. However at the same time they don't know jack squat about what it takes to fight them, and know even less about the roles both Harry and Rashid have in fighting them. After 700 years or however old Rashid is, the Council feels it can trust him though to most "Gate Keeper" is a title without any real meaning because if most believe like Harry did before he actually visited, that the Outer Gates are just a metaphor. Harry is young, the Council never trusted his mother, so a lot of guilt by association there. I think they know even less about a star born, they know words like destroyer connected with the title and immune to Outsiders, but as Rashid said, they know little about what his and Harry's actual roles are in the fight against them. So how could they expect to know what role Harry's starborn status has in the fight? So when you think of it in those terms, it isn't surprising that Morgan wasn't able to put two and two together, he never had enough information to put two and two together.
Tinfoil hat:
A starborn is born every 666 years which is about 2 wizard generations or so.
In other words, the Council may know enough about Outsiders and Nemesis to be afraid of them. However at the same time they don't know jack squat about what it takes to fight them, and know even less about the roles both Harry and Rashid have in fighting them. After 700 years or however old Rashid is, the Council feels it can trust him though to most "Gate Keeper" is a title without any real meaning because if most believe like Harry did before he actually visited, that the Outer Gates are just a metaphor. Harry is young, the Council never trusted his mother, so a lot of guilt by association there. I think they know even less about a star born, they know words like destroyer connected with the title and immune to Outsiders, but as Rashid said, they know little about what his and Harry's actual roles are in the fight against them. So how could they expect to know what role Harry's starborn status has in the fight? So when you think of it in those terms, it isn't surprising that Morgan wasn't able to put two and two together, he never had enough information to put two and two together.
So i dont think the SC at least is completely ignorant on what a starborn is. A starborn is natural and constant thing that occurs rarely but constantly.
Information about it should be available to least to the top guys.
The biggest thing I see is that the results of the starborn actions are catastrophic that everyone is afraid of them. Even when they are on your side. I once saw a woj that The Merlin's plan to deal with the Red court was to unleash the Dresden.
The results of harry dealing with the red court was the fomor
Mira:
--- Quote ---So i dont think the SC at least is completely ignorant on what a starborn is. A starborn is natural and constant thing that occurs rarely but constantly.
Information about it should be available to least to the top guys.
The biggest thing I see is that the results of the starborn actions are catastrophic that everyone is afraid of them. Even when they are on your side. I once saw a woj that The Merlin's plan to deal with the Red court was to unleash the Dresden.
The results of harry dealing with the red court was the fomor
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Oh I think Council knows what a starborn is, and I agree that the Council is afraid of them. However I don't think they understand Harry, I also think they tried to have something to do with his conception for their own purposes. I think Margaret rebelled and when she met Malcolm she decided to conceive of a starborn for her own purposes with the encouragement of Mab.
I don't think the Merlin sent Harry to deal with the Red Court. What Harry did was simply reverse the Red King's spell that would have wiped out Eb and his family. It may have been the Merlin's way of trying to get rid of Harry. Since the Merlin didn't know about little Maggie, Harry was the youngest in Eb's family, I think the Merlin might have been one of the few that knew that Margaret was Eb's daughter.. But then the question would be why did the Merlin want to get rid of Eb? The Fomor were always there but kept in check somewhat by the Red Court.. Or maybe just not noticed as much..
g33k:
--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on December 07, 2024, 08:25:01 PM --- ... I once saw a woj that The Merlin's plan to deal with the Red court was to unleash the Dresden ...
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I have seen that as a fan theory... do not recall seeing a WoJ to that effect, however.
If you can find your cite, I'd be grateful!
Tinfoil hat:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 09, 2024, 04:19:36 PM ---I have seen that as a fan theory... do not recall seeing a WoJ to that effect, however.
If you can find your cite, I'd be grateful!
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Ask and you shall get a half answer, misread or half remembered.
I tried to find the full quote but all i got was a reference to the quote on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/phvgfe/the_merlin_in_dragoncon_and_what_it_means/
Hope anyone who has the full quote will assist
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