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I just had a funny idea (serious spoilers for BG, just in case)
Dina:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 09, 2024, 05:51:45 PM ---
IIRC, Jim has titled his Mirror,Mirror book in explicit homage to the ST:TOS episode, & seems to be leaning-in further; I think it's a primary influence. The other big influence, I think, is the old Jimmy Stewart vehicle, It's a Wonderful Life; there's the explicitly-identical conceit of "get to see how things would have played out differently, with this one little change..."
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Yes, I think that is right, those were his influences.
--- Quote from: Mira on August 09, 2024, 01:02:33 PM --- Or in the spirit of the tin foil hat, Harry will convince Titania to make him her Summer Knight so they can really team up in the coming BAT.
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Mira, I loved this idea!
Mira:
--- Quote ---IIRC, Jim has titled his Mirror,Mirror book in explicit homage to the ST:TOS episode, & seems to be leaning-in further; I think it's a primary influence. The other big influence, I think, is the old Jimmy Stewart vehicle, It's a Wonderful Life; there's the explicitly-identical conceit of "get to see how things would have played out differently, with this one little change..."
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I can see that, wonder if Michael will become "Clarence the Angel," and earn his wings finally buy guiding Harry though how things would have been if he had never been born, or maybe in this case the kind of man that he is? However while that is nice, for a whole novel I believe it has to move the series along and honestly might be done just as well in a short story or novelette. There has to be more to it, I think it will be the rescue of Chandler.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 11, 2024, 10:44:21 AM ---I can see that, wonder if Michael will become "Clarence the Angel," and earn his wings finally buy guiding Harry though how things would have been if he had never been born, or maybe in this case the kind of man that he is? However while that is nice, for a whole novel I believe it has to move the series along and honestly might be done just as well in a short story or novelette. There has to be more to it, I think it will be the rescue of Chandler.
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No matter how good a man he is, I don't think Michel is in any position to offer multi-dimensional alternate-reality info to Harry. ;)
Unless you're suggesting an afterlife-Michael?
I'm kinda-sorta expecting Mirror,Mirror to have a redeemed Marcone: with Mirror!Harry no longer Fighting the Good Fight, Marcone will increasingly have needed to stand up for those few principles (e.g. "no kids") he has, alienating most of the other Bad Guys and forcing Marcone deeper into the Good Guy camp. Our Harry!Prime will give Marcone one of the Swords (probably Amoracchius), and further complicate Harry's feelings towards Marcone!Prime: he's actually really close to being a viable KotC!
Both Mirror!Murphy & Mirror!Susan will be alive & well. Susan will be in bed with Mirror!Harry (literally & figuratively: both as his lover/gf, but also actively Bad-Girl'ing to Mirror!Harry's Bad-Boy), & Murphy will be profoundly distrustful of Harry, because her Harry, Mirror!Harry, is a very-black BlackHat ...
Both his lost loves "restored" -- but both unavailable (neither to be "loves" nor to process / get closure) -- is gonna mess with Harry's mind even worse than Jim usually does.
Mira:
--- Quote ---No matter how good a man he is, I don't think Michel is in any position to offer multi-dimensional alternate-reality info to Harry. ;)
Unless you're suggesting an afterlife-Michael?
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No, I was just trying to think off the top of my head who'd be the alternative to Clarence the angel who hadn't earned his wings yet in the original "It's a Wonderful Life." I guess bizarrely it could be Lasciel, I guess since she started out as an angel and is a fallen angel it could be her that would play that role, or maybe Nic, but as you point out the same problems as with Michael.
--- Quote ---I'm kinda-sorta expecting Mirror,Mirror to have a redeemed Marcone: with Mirror!Harry no longer Fighting the Good Fight, Marcone will increasingly have needed to stand up for those few principles (e.g. "no kids") he has, alienating most of the other Bad Guys and forcing Marcone deeper into the Good Guy camp. Our Harry!Prime will give Marcone one of the Swords (probably Amoracchius), and further complicate Harry's feelings towards Marcone!Prime: he's actually really close to being a viable KotC!
Both Mirror!Murphy & Mirror!Susan will be alive & well. Susan will be in bed with Mirror!Harry (literally & figuratively: both as his lover/gf, but also actively Bad-Girl'ing to Mirror!Harry's Bad-Boy), & Murphy will be profoundly distrustful of Harry, because her Harry, Mirror!Harry, is a very-black BlackHat ...
Both his lost loves "restored" -- but both unavailable (neither to be "loves" nor to process / get closure) -- is gonna mess with Harry's mind even worse than Jim usually does.
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Which isn't the point of the original "Mirror Mirror." I think if you maker Marcone the good guy and Harry the bad, then Harry would have to convince him to kill his bad self. Also our Harry following the example of Kirk in the original story would have to see the same good in the man in both dimensions when he urged Spock to assassinate the bad Kirk. As cool as all that is, the problem still is how does this further the series along? There has to be a point to it.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 09, 2024, 01:02:33 PM --- ... and while yeah, it is a fantasy, as Murphy aged turning her into some kind of Wonder Woman/ Sage became more unrealistic ...
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Except not:
The exceptionality of martial arts is very trope-y in fantasy, and fits well into the Dredenverse.
Aikido, in particular, is overtly & explicitly spiritual in origin & much of its practice (though not every dojo follows that path).
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