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Has Carlos sided with the merlin against Harry
Dina:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 21, 2024, 04:13:41 PM ---
I find this very well-reasoned & persuasive. I can only "make excuses" for the White Council here; explain how their motivation could work out to the actions they did. They clearly didn't do things they "should" do (as you clearly laid out, above).
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Thank you.
And you are probably right about all what you said. I wonder what the supernatural world in general will think about the White Council after the Titan attack. It will be known that they had a good part in the action.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Dina on July 21, 2024, 06:19:24 PM --- ... I wonder what the supernatural world in general will think about the White Council after the Titan attack. It will be known that they had a good part in the action.
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Yeah.
The accorded nations all saw the WC fighting -- and fighting very effectively! -- at the Battle of Chicago. It may give them pause in their various subtle sniping attcks...
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 21, 2024, 04:13:41 PM ---
To begin with, I think the WC is stultifying under centuries of tradition and multiple layers of no-longer-relevant bureaucratic policy. In particular, much of the supernatural world is roiling and unstable and innovating, in light of the upcoming Starborn Cycle terminus; but the WC hasn't adjusted or adapted. In particular, they have a tradition of letting every wizard do whatever, independently, and only step in with Warden Action when the wizard goes too far. So they may be a bit suspicious of Harry being whampire-dominated, but that's his business until/unless it goes towards breaking the Laws of Magic.
That scene in Peace Talks where Ramirez & Co confront Harry about Lara, that's the WC beginning to "take official notice."
There's also, I think, some "we are the White Council" arrogant blindness going on, related to the aforementioned uptick in supernatural action (which the WC hasn't matched, or adapted to). They don't/can't believe any group would be so self-confident as to attempt such a brazen subversion of a WC wizard and warden.
The WC hasn't noticed -- as an organization -- that many of the other supernatural powers have in fact become much more-active and much more-aggressive, and that they -- the WC -- are beginning to look (to those predators) much like an aging buck: still impressive, but no longer quite up to the task of protecting the herd... or itself.
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I think that's probably kind of inherent to the nature of the Council. It's made up of people who live for centuries, and the most influential, powerful, and potent of them are centuries old. An ingrained conservatism would be expected.
The more so, of course, because nine times out of then, they would be right. It's probably normal for the Council that the youngish Wizards and Witches, say anyone in their first lifetime-span (by which I mean someone from membership to 70 or 80) would likely get excited about this or that Super-Duper-Unprecedented Major Big Deal all the time. The mature and older Wizards and Witches, though, have seen it all before...and before...and before. They don't get all that excited about things, and like I said, 9 times out of 10 they'll be right.
(Sort of like the interaction of parents and teenagers, on a grander scale.)
We know that this is the tenth time, that what's going on really is a Big Fat Deal, but it would naturally take time for the older Councilors to recognize that.
OTOH, as JB has said, when the Council takes the gloves off and starts punching for real, people feel it. They're a major power when they feel motivated, as Kemmler learned and as we've occasionally been seeing.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 18, 2024, 03:58:05 PM ---Would have to go back and reread the whole chapter again. One thing that could be a factor is the fact that Anastasia was heavily under the influence of Peabody ink at the time, and was trying to manipulate Harry. As per Harry's last conversation with Rashid in the infirmary when he was told about the ink, how much under control Anastasia was by Peabody. Long and the short of it Anastasia was basically following orders to get close to Harry. At the time when she told Harry about his mother, he had real feelings for her. People in love don't always have the best judgement, thinking she loved him may have led Harry to trust everything she told him, even if it clashed with what others had told him.
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The thing is, it's not so much that Harry did or didn't trust her, it's that he didn't appear to even have noticed the discrepancy. That's the weird part.
g33k:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 22, 2024, 06:03:43 AM ---I think that's probably kind of inherent to the nature of the Council. It's made up of people who live for centuries, and the most influential, powerful, and potent of them are centuries old. An ingrained conservatism would be expected ...
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I've got a suspicion it depends on who's the Merlin, and the other Senior Council.
McCoy was advocating for an aggressive/activist stance for years. If he'd had 2-3 like-minded members on the SC -- and/or someone like that was the Merlin -- then I think the other Supernaturals would be looking at the wizards as much "harder" targets.
I suspect the prior Merlin (the one before Langtry) may have had such an outlook; or maybe Younger Langtry did -- when he first became Merlin -- but the one we see now is older and "wiser" and much more cautious...
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