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Has Carlos sided with the merlin against Harry
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 21, 2024, 02:24:17 AM ---I haven't reread the books you mentioned and don't remember them. That's why rereading the series is important because as the series goes on looking back at the subtleties of what was said or unsaid become significant sometimes. The thought just hit me reading the above that maybe Eb didn't abandon young Harry or lose track of him in the foster system at all. Given his secrecy about his family thinking he was protecting young Harry by not advertising his relationship to him, could Eb have made a bargain with Lea to watch over Harry in his absence? We know she was the nice lady that visited from time to time when Harry was in the orphanage. And yeah, when and if the truth ever comes out about that bargain, if it was made, I can see Harry resenting both Lea and Eb because of it. I don't think since he endured years in an orphanage and ended up with Justin that that was a very good bargain as far as he was concerned.
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I think you may be on to something. I'll go a little further. I won't be surprised if we eventually discover that Lea made separate deals with Margaret, then Ebenezer, Justin; perhaps later or perhaps around the same time as Ebenezer, and finally Harry. Being second only to Mab in all things Winter, I can imagine Lea recounting how she kept the word of every deal she made while exploiting every loophole available to her, to advance her own agenda.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think you may be on to something. I'll go a little further. I won't be surprised if we eventually discover that Lea made separate deals with Margaret, then Ebenezer, Justin; perhaps later or perhaps around the same time as Ebenezer, and finally Harry. Being second only to Mab in all things Winter, I can imagine Lea recounting how she kept the word of every deal she made while exploiting every loophole available to her, to advance her own agenda.
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Yes, and this made Lea perhaps the most dangerous being in the Winter Court. Why? Because Lea is no Mab. She thought she was, she thought she was every bit as clever and strong as Mab, but she was not. This is hinted at back when we first meet her and Harry is terrified of her because she wanted to turn him into a hound to keep him safe. I started a thread about it years ago when I started to reread the books. On the reread it became very apparent to me that Lea wanted Mab's job, she thought she was stronger and more clever than Mab. Now it could be that she was actually infected with Nemesis long before she was given the Knife at the party back in Grave Peril. When you think about it, why was she so happy to get it? She wasn't accepting it on behalf of her Queen. Lea thought the Knife gave her power, and she thought she could wheel and deal and maybe overthrow Mab because of it. It also may have been Lea's motivation to give the Knife to unhappy Maeve, making her part of the conspiracy, and we saw how that ended. However when Lea's madness became too overt, Mab caught it in time to treat and supposedly cure her, though Mab didn't spot it soon enough to save Maeve.
So going back to your original idea of Lea making all these separate bargains, most of which backfired makes sense when you think of it in the context that Lea may have already have been infected at that time. What better way for Nemesis to take out the star born child that would have the power to defeat it some day? It would appear to everyone at the time that Lea was making these bargains to keep her godchild safe, but all of the while she was being used by Nemesis to take out that child. The plan came close to succeeding when young Harry killed Justin and almost lost his head for it... It was a near thing, it also underscores what Eb said in his journal back in Turn Coat, paraphrasing now, "it is almost like there is a divine hand in all of this.." Hmmmmm... :-\ Does a certain covert wet works archangel come to mind? Dare we say, Uriel? :o
Okay, I went back and found the exact quote, to me rereading it now, it seems more profound. page 379, Turn Coat;
--- Quote ---I sometimes can't help but think that there is such a thing as fate--or at least a higher power of some sort, attempting to arrange events in our favor despite everything we, in our ignorance, do to thwart it.
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Bet all the eggs in the hen house that that higher power is Uriel, under the direction of his Boss of course.
KurtinStGeorge:
I agree with your first statement that Lea is no Mab. Thinking of Lea becoming the next Mab makes me think about the Peter Principle. The idea of a person who is confident and successful at their job and because of their success this person is promoted, perhaps several times, until they are promoted to a job they are incompetent to perform and they fail completely.
I am much less sanguine about the idea that Lea was taken over by Nemesis prior to being given the Athame by Bianca. Lea clearly underestimated Harry's potential and his unwillingness to be cowed by anyone. (I suppose in Harry's case it would be, "Harry refused to be dogged.") It is the main reason why Harry was able to outmaneuver Lea in Grave Peril, though Harry had to risk his life to do so. Lea made the mistake of thinking Harry hadn't really changed from the frightened and easily manipulatable 16 year-old she had first met.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I am much less sanguine about the idea that Lea was taken over by Nemesis prior to being given the Athame by Bianca. Lea clearly underestimated Harry's potential and his unwillingness to be cowed by anyone. (I suppose in Harry's case it would be, "Harry refused to be dogged.") It is the main reason why Harry was able to outmaneuver Lea in Grave Peril, though Harry had to risk his life to do so. Lea made the mistake of thinking Harry hadn't really changed from the frightened and easily manipulatable 16 year-old she had first met.
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As far as Harry goes, yes, Lea underestimated him, however that doesn't change her ambition and desire to perhaps become Queen herself. Her early dialogue when we first meet her suggests that she thought she could do a better job at Mab's job, than Mab. What you have to ask yourself and admittedly at that point in time we don't know if that kind of ambition among the Fae is normal. If it isn't, what is driving it? Is Lea the exception that proves the rule? Or was she infected and Nemesis was driving her ambition?
Either way, the gift of the infected Knife at the Party gave her a way to overthrow Mab. Then Lea went ahead and gave the infected Knife to Maeve. One of the things that Lea says in the brief conversation with Harry while she was in ice in Proven Guilty was how Mab set her straight, very brief because she went mad again.. Who are the two Fae in the Winter Court who sought to undermine and overthrow Mab? Lea and Maeve, who were the two Fae infected? Lea and Maeve.. When Lea was going around making all these bargains supposedly to keep baby then very young Harry safe, which didn't, she could have been infected. Then when that failed, what did Nemesis do? Go after the Queen strongest to go against them, Mab, so the infected Knife was introduced.
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