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Has Carlos sided with the merlin against Harry
Mira:
--- Quote ---Harry really needs to re-think the idea that he can turn his back on necromancy, that his temporary resurrection of Sue was a onetime event. As dangerous as using necromancy might be; both because of the possible mind altering side effects and that Harry would be breaking one of the Laws, it is probably the only weapon Harry might wield against Drakul that would be effective. I suppose Harry could teach Ebenezar to use necromancy against Drakul; seeing as the Black Staff can break the Laws of magic without consequences, but there isn't any guarantee Eb will be around much longer.
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It's very possible that Harry will turn to necromancy in the BAT. It isn't for nothing that over the series Jim has added various weapons and knowledge to Harry's quiver most likely for future use. Let's not forget more than once Harry has rattled off several skills he has acquired from necromancy to Darkhallow,
KurtinStGeorge:
Rereading Morgan’s journal, the late warden said he expected Captain Luccio to read it so it turns out she did know what Morgan knew about Harry or learned from Morgan’s journal what he knew. Morgan said that he made a promise to Margaret LeFay to protect Harry but he failed to do so. This is really odd seeing as Margaret was on the run from the Wardens as well as Lord Raith and company. Perhaps we will learn the complete story of how this occurred sometime down the line.
Morgan didn’t know who killed Malcolm Dresden and the warden said he couldn’t be certain Malcolm’s death was a murder, but I think we can safely assume that it was just that. Morgan tracked Harry and his father until the time of Malcolm’s death, but he wasn’t able to arrive until after Harry had been placed into the foster care system and disappeared from the system and it was done in every way possible, magically as well as bureaucratically. Morgan also said that he looked for Harry for years after this but couldn’t find him. Morgan then said, “that bastard Justin DuMorne got to him before I could,” but did he?
Morgan said that because of the amount of time Harry was missing, being hidden by Justin, the Council couldn’t be certain Harry hadn’t been infected by Nemesis. This is why he felt it was probably safer to kill Harry outright, but of course Ebenezar felt differently.
We know Justin DuMore eventually got a hold of Harry, but that doesn’t mean Justin was responsible for Malcolm’s death or that he was the individual who placed Harry into the system and made his records disappear.
It appears that Lea visited Harry from time to time before he was adopted by Justin. Dina has stated that she thinks Lea might have murdered Malcolm. She isn’t the only person to have come to this conclusion. I and at least one or two others have placed Lea on the suspect list for Malcolm’s death. Lea kills Malcolm as part of a deal with Justin or someone else. We don’t know what Lea was promised to get out of this deal, though we do know that she was eventually able to cut Justin out of the picture and get her hooks into Harry. Lea getting Harry to get rid of Justin is accurate, but the rest of it is speculative.
There is another scenario where the White Council is responsible for the murder of Malcolm Dresden. It might seem a bit far fetched, but it is a possibility. Morgan said he tracked Harry and Malcolm until Malcolm’s death, but he was away on a mission at the time, and this is why Morgan wasn’t able to get to young Harry. How convenient for the killer.
Donald Morgan was loyal to Arthur Langtry. Whatever conversation or communication he had with Margaret LeFay he probably reported to the Merlin. This seems especially likely to me as it concerned a soon to be starborn individual. Morgan, being a straightforward person, would have told the Merlin that he promised Margaret that he would protect her child.
The Merlin would have known that Warden Morgan wouldn’t willingly break his given word; especially concerning the protection of a child, so he went along with Morgan keeping tabs on Harry and Malcolm’s movements only asking for occasional updates. For some reason, after six years the Merlin decided the situation with Harry had to change. Perhaps the Merlin had a good reason, perhaps he learned there was a competing party looking to find Harry or perhaps the Merlin never liked the idea of a non-magic user looking after a starborn whose mother had been a strong magic practitioner. Whatever the reason, the Merlin sends Morgan on a time consuming mission to sideline him and sends the Blackstaff to kill Malcolm Dresden; both for Harry’s greater good and the good of the White Council.
Here is why I don’t consider this scenario just a wild ass guess. In Peace Talks, when Harry is arguing with Eb about Maggie’s safety, Harry tells Ebenezar about the emotional harm he suffered when Eb abandoned Harry to be placed in the foster care system. Ebenezar couldn’t even look Harry in the face as Harry said this and Ebenezar didn’t deny it. That is a problem. If Justin DuMorne found Harry first and with Lea’s help or by himself, made Harry disappear, why didn’t Eb set Harry straight? “Hoss, I’m sorry, but you are wrong. I didn’t abandon you, Justin DuMorne made you disappear before me or anyone on the Council could find you. We didn’t see you until after you killed Justin in a duel.”
Maybe Ebenezar didn’t kill Malcolm, but there is a contradiction here, and not a small one. I would have thought that one of the Beta readers would have noticed it first. I hope this isn’t some Dresden multiverse nonsense. I don’t have a problem with little things, like in one book there is a Brighter Future Society, but in another book it is the Better Future Society, that the description of Mort Lindquist’s home changes dramatically between books, Bianca’s dead lover changes names between Storm Front and Grave Peril or Harry has never been inside Marcone’s castle in Cold Days or Skin Game, but I think in the same book Harry mentions he went inside that same castle when he was a ghost. These are little details that tell us there is a Dresden multiverse, but they aren’t major contradictions which threaten to seriously break continuity.
I think there are two answers that resolve this situation. One is Morgan was wrong. Justin didn’t disappear Harry. By some means Justin got ahold of Harry later on. Ebenezar was responsible for making Harry disappear into the state system. The second is Ebenezar stood back and watched it happen. In that case Eb almost certainly knows who killed Malcolm Dresden and kept this secret, just like he kept the secret of Margaret's death from Harry. But why would Eb do that if Justin killed Malcolm? Ebenezar kept his knowledge of Margaret's murder from Harry because he didn't want Harry going off after Lord Raith when he knew Harry couldn't harm Raith and would just get himself killed. If Justin killed Malcolm, that excuse doesn't fit.
Only Morgan was in doubt about young Harry’s whereabouts. Ebenezar knew, or at least knew who disappeared Harry and wasn't concerned about it. This would suggest Eb considered the party who disappeared Harry was keeping the child safe. Not someone who would use or twist Harry for their own means. This would mean it was someone Ebenezar trusted. Who could that be?
Mira:
--- Quote ---It appears that Lea visited Harry from time to time before he was adopted by Justin. Dina has stated that she thinks Lea might have murdered Malcolm. She isn’t the only person to have come to this conclusion. I and at least one or two others have placed Lea on the suspect list for Malcolm’s death. Lea kills Malcolm as part of a deal with Justin or someone else. We don’t know what Lea was promised to get out of this deal, though we do know that she was eventually able to cut Justin out of the picture and get her hooks into Harry. Lea getting Harry to get rid of Justin is accurate, but the rest of it is speculative.
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Somehow I don't think that Lea murdered Malcolm, because I seem to remember her saying to Harry back in Summer Knight or perhaps Grave Peril that she had promised to keep Harry safe. The only way I could see her murdering Malcolm would be that for some reason in her twisted Fae mind, which doesn't track logically like a human brain, it was the only way to keep Harry safe. That's not to say that it perhaps Lea sacrificed Malcolm, killing him in the most humane way she knew how, but if you asked her, she wouldn't call it murder. I am also willing to bet that if I am right, she had Mab's backing all of the way, maybe did it under Mab's orders. The kicker might be that their logic was sound, as in they feared that Malcolm was vulnerable to Nemesis, and thus Harry was.. But yeah, a lot of dark speculation.
One wonders, was it Lea that made sure that Harry disappeared into the foster care system? Did the Winter Court fear plans that the White Council had for young Harry? Or what they would do to Harry? Was it merely an accident that Harry fell into Justin's hands in the first place?
--- Quote ---Here is why I don’t consider this scenario just a wild ass guess. In Peace Talks, when Harry is arguing with Eb about Maggie’s safety, Harry tells Ebenezar about the emotional harm he suffered when Eb abandoned Harry to be placed in the foster care system. Ebenezar couldn’t even look Harry in the face as Harry said this and Ebenezar didn’t deny it. That is a problem. If Justin DuMorne found Harry first and with Lea’s help or by himself, made Harry disappear, why didn’t Eb set Harry straight? “Hoss, I’m sorry, but you are wrong. I didn’t abandon you, Justin DuMorne made you disappear before me or anyone on the Council could find you. We didn’t see you until after you killed Justin in a duel.”
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It is possible that Lea made Harry disappear so that Eb and the White Council couldn't find him, because she knew that the White Council had put his mother under a death warrant. Then again, we don't know if there was a traitor on the White Council.. Nor do we know how long Peabody's ink had been doing it's thing. The truth is though that Eb did abandon Harry, he never kept any ties with or kept track of Harry and Malcolm.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 20, 2024, 08:55:57 PM ---Somehow I don't think that Lea murdered Malcolm, because I seem to remember her saying to Harry back in Summer Knight or perhaps Grave Peril that she had promised to keep Harry safe. The only way I could see her murdering Malcolm would be that for some reason in her twisted Fae mind, which doesn't track logically like a human brain, it was the only way to keep Harry safe. That's not to say that it perhaps Lea sacrificed Malcolm, killing him in the most humane way she knew how, but if you asked her, she wouldn't call it murder. I am also willing to bet that if I am right, she had Mab's backing all of the way, maybe did it under Mab's orders. The kicker might be that their logic was sound, as in they feared that Malcolm was vulnerable to Nemesis, and thus Harry was.. But yeah, a lot of dark speculation.
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There is a WoJ that states that Margaret did not make the best deal she might have made with Lea. The general speculation I have seen on this statement is that Margaret didn’t include Malcolm as someone Lea should have protected. Either Maragret saw Malcolm as someone who would be ignored because he wasn’t a player in the great game or Margaret wasn’t thinking clearly because she was pregnant, concerned with the safety of her unborn child and being chased by bad guys who wanted her dead. That might be enough to throw anyone off their game.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 20, 2024, 08:55:57 PM --- One wonders, was it Lea that made sure that Harry disappeared into the foster care system? Did the Winter Court fear plans that the White Council had for young Harry? Or what they would do to Harry? Was it merely an accident that Harry fell into Justin's hands in the first place?
It is possible that Lea made Harry disappear so that Eb and the White Council couldn't find him, because she knew that the White Council had put his mother under a death warrant. Then again, we don't know if there was a traitor on the White Council.. Nor do we know how long Peabody's ink had been doing it's thing. The truth is though that Eb did abandon Harry, he never kept any ties with or kept track of Harry and Malcolm.
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This isn’t directly related to your statement above, but it is something that is interesting and might be of some relevance later on. On my last reread of Changes I noticed that Ebenezer and Lea know each other, and not just by reputation. After the battle is finally over Ebenezer walked up to both Harry and Lea; I think they were sitting next to each other, and Eb looked at Lea and said, “Family business.” Please excuse us.” Lea just smirked at Ebenezar and walked away.
One, that is a rather informal way to speak to one of the highest ranking members of the Winter Court. If Eb didn’t know Lea, he would have probably introduced himself and been a bit more formal in his request to have Lea leave. More important and to the point, remember in Battle Ground the Erlking recognized the amulet Harry was wearing; or the jewel in the amulet, as being one that belonged to Margaret Lefay or of her design. When Harry responded that Margaret LeFay was his mother, he got a sideways look from Ebenezar. Harry then went on to explain that Eb didn’t believe in giving away this type of information freely and this would probably come up in a future talk with Eb.
So, for Ebenezer to freely say he needed some privacy with Harry to discuss “family business,” that means that Ebenezar knew that Lea already knew about Eb and Harry’s family connection. It means Eb and Lea knew each other pretty well. Maybe Eb has even made deals with Lea in the past. If so, that would mean Lea has made deals with the Grandfather, his daughter and his grandson. Lea being Harry’s fairy godmother almost make her family, to Harry at least; though in a really odd way.
Mira:
--- Quote ---So, for Ebenezer to freely say he needed some privacy with Harry to discuss “family business,” that means that Ebenezar knew that Lea already knew about Eb and Harry’s family connection. It means Eb and Lea knew each other pretty well. Maybe Eb has even made deals with Lea in the past. If so, that would mean Lea has made deals with the Grandfather, his daughter and his grandson. Lea being Harry’s fairy godmother almost make her family, to Harry at least; though in a really odd way.
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I haven't reread the books you mentioned and don't remember them. That's why rereading the series is important because as the series goes on looking back at the subtleties of what was said or unsaid become significant sometimes. The thought just hit me reading the above that maybe Eb didn't abandon young Harry or lose track of him in the foster system at all. Given his secrecy about his family thinking he was protecting young Harry by not advertising his relationship to him, could Eb have made a bargain with Lea to watch over Harry in his absence? We know she was the nice lady that visited from time to time when Harry was in the orphanage. And yeah, when and if the truth ever comes out about that bargain, if it was made, I can see Harry resenting both Lea and Eb because of it. I don't think since he endured years in an orphanage and ended up with Justin that that was a very good bargain as far as he was concerned.
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