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Has Carlos sided with the merlin against Harry
GreenMysticalUnicorn:
I wouldn’t be surpsied if this is the case. If seemed quite off in fact all the wardens did.
I feel a lot when on in changes with regards to the council that we just haven’t been told. Essentially they implied the council was about to fall. Was it Lucio who said she couldn’t speak…. Then nothing. Coincidently we had the green guy step in as well. All this happened after the events of turn coat when the council was severely weakened. I think the events of changes were one huge cats poor, by the black hats to infiltrate the council. They got rid of a huge liability with the reds and Dresden was off their radar for a little while too. We think the good guys won. It was the black hats that won but we just haven’t seen that yet.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: GreenMysticalUnicorn on October 09, 2024, 06:59:01 AM ---Carlos has Harry come back from the dead is now a winter knight and then has Molly attack him. Isn’t that enough to push the man against Dresden?
He was loyal to Harry but since changes, so much has happened and so little trust has been gained. I can understand why he is suspicious of Harry now
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Yeah, no question that enough has happened to make it understandable if Carlos really has come to the conclusion that Langtry was right all along. I myself, as I have said, suspect that in fact Carlos is probably of divided mind. I suspect he kind of wants to believe in Harry...but can't quite anymore. I suspect that Carlos suspects that Harry is in the process of going off the rails and doesn't even realize it himself.
Dina:
I think that is true. After all, Harry himself was worried about becoming a monster after becoming the Winter Knight. And so, Carlos thinks the same is possible. I still do not justify all Carlos' actions but I can admit that his fears are reasonable.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 14, 2024, 10:51:36 AM ---I think that is true. After all, Harry himself was worried about becoming a monster after becoming the Winter Knight. And so, Carlos thinks the same is possible. I still do not justify all Carlos' actions but I can admit that his fears are reasonable.
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Yes, but his injuries from his encounter with Molly I believe hurt Carlos more deeply mentally and emotionally, than it did physically.
How can Carlos begin to understand what happened when he tried to make love to Molly, when Molly herself doesn't or didn't understand? This creates fear and paranoia and you can bet that someone on the Senior Council took advantage of that. Yes, since Carlos is a leader, his fellow Wardens went along, but not all of them.
Lord Kinbote:
Maybe the point has already made; if so, excuse the repetition.
Carlos knew Molly before she assumed the Winter Lady mantle and trusted her, in no way expecting that Molly would severely injure him when he attempted to get intimate with her in a wholly consensual situation (or what her mantle did to him, but same thing from Carlos' perspective). So he's seen what Molly's Winter mantle does irrespective of Molly's wishes/decisions and how irrelevant the consequences to a human are to her mantle.
Can we expect that Carlos would think that the Winter Knight's mantle would have some different, more gentle effect on Harry? Carlos must see Harry as extremely dangerous and inherently unpredictable, especially after what Carlos and the White Council saw and what Harry did during BG (and now Harry has a Titan bound to his will - and White Knight Harry may have the same power over the entities imprisoned by Demonreach). And with all the deaths, the WC held Dresden culpable to some degree for Chicago (even if it was simply because Dresden should have come to the WC sooner and been more open).
Seems to me Carlos' position is imminently understandable.
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