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Fae Rankings
Con:
Found this rereading Summer Knight.
"And your godmother your teacher and guide is the most vicious creature of Mabs Court more than Maeves equal second in strength only to Mab herself."
So Lea is more powerful than Maeve personally, but someone pointed out Maeve probably has the authority to boss her around.
Which got me thinking about how I'd rank the Fae
1.Mothers.
2.Queens.
3. Kringle, Erlking; Erlking has a Goblin Court, but Kringle would get more mortal worship and recognition.
4. Lea, Eldest Gruff; We hadn't met the above two when Aurora said the above quote, and Auroroa's grain of salt anyway, but neither have their own court or near the level of worship strength of Kringle.
5. Ladies; A note here to say they probably have the authority to boss, the 4's around, but would probably loose in a 1v1 duel. Doubt they could boss the 3s as semi independent Dukedomes.
6. Higher level's of Fae; Sidhe, Elders, Trolls, Ogre's, Goblins. (Depending on their own rank)
7. Foot soldiers; Some of the same species as above but less elite. Mawks, Trolls, Goblins. Or Molly's recruits.
8. Tribes, Swarmers; Little Folk, Sprites, The Spiders or smaller animal fae.
Lemme know if you agree, disagree would reshuffle or add anything. If we get a consensus on any I'll edit the original post with notes on why and who suggested a change.
Mira:
I don't think it is a question so much of individual power levels, but more about the rules they have to follow. What made Maeve so dangerous in my opinion wasn't her strength, as you point out Lea may well have been able to kick her butt, but once infected and even before, her willingness to break the rules usually governing the Fae.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 14, 2023, 03:09:03 PM --- ... her willingness to break the rules ...
--- End quote ---
Not just willing, I think, but able.
I think Maeve was willing to break the rules before she got Nemfected -- probably eager, in fact! -- but she wasn't able to.
g33k:
"Beatdown" rankings (who will win a brawl) aren't the best way to judge, in the Dresdenverse.
--- Quote from: Con on October 14, 2023, 11:32:19 AM ---...1.Mothers.
2.Queens.
--- End quote ---
1.
While the Mothers have tons of power, they're very limited in how they can act.
It appears they knew what Aurora was up to with the WK mantle hidden within StatueLily... but they couldn't even drop a word in the ears of the respective Queens! That's... kinda feeble, actually!
2.
Mab has a *LOT* more power than Titania... but most of it is tied up at the Outer Gates.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on October 14, 2023, 04:17:29 PM ---Not just willing, I think, but able.
I think Maeve was willing to break the rules before she got Nemfected -- probably eager, in fact! -- but she wasn't able to.
--- End quote ---
That would imply an actual physical block to them breaking the rules.. As in, "the Fae cannot lie," because there is a physical block against it in their brains. I don't think that is so clear, because we've seen both Lea and Mab twist things so while yeah you cannot say they are lying, they aren't exactly telling the truth either.
--- Quote ---1.
While the Mothers have tons of power, they're very limited in how they can act.
It appears they knew what Aurora was up to with the WK mantle hidden within StatueLily... but they couldn't even drop a word in the ears of the respective Queens! That's... kinda feeble, actually!
--- End quote ---
Not really, I think it is more that the Mothers do have the most power, they are actual forces of nature, let's not forget that shelf of jars and their contents that Harry upset back in Summer Knight. What was up with Aurora while something they'd notice, they leave dealing with it up to the Queens, Mothers don't have time to micromanage.
--- Quote ---[Mab has a *LOT* more power than Titania... but most of it is tied up at the Outer Gates.
--- End quote ---
I don't believe that is true either after seeing the both of them at work in Battle Ground. Mab is simply more assertive than Titania and applies it differently perhaps because it is her Court's turn to guard the Gates. However lets not forget that was the millennia roles around Titania will once again have her turn at doing the guarding.
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