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Mira:

--- Quote from: g33k on October 21, 2023, 12:12:58 AM ---The crux of our disagreement.

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 Understood, however Jim wouldn't have drawn our attention to it three books later... Harry asking Mab about her anger in the chapel three books before and answering his own question.
A] "That was why."
B] " Because you figured out that the adversary had taken Maeve."
C] "And it hurt."
 Notice nothing is said about what you suggest, though all perfectly good reasons for her anger, but no.
"It was the knife."  said Mab.. 

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 21, 2023, 03:29:08 AM --- ... Harry asking Mab about her anger in the chapel ...
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To my reading, Mab's anger, her rage, was in every scene; not just in the chapel.

That's just where her self-control cracked for a moment.  Maybe even that was a cold & calculated move by Mab:  to let her anger show, for just a moment.  Let Harry see it, feel it.

You put far more emphasis on "It was the knife" than I do:  that isn't even the moment her rage peeked through; that moment came when Harry named Thorned Namshiel (as the Fallen who assaulted Arctis Tor), nothing to do with the Athame / Maeve / Nemfection (unless it does:  what if Thorny did have something to do with the Athame...?) .

Mira:

--- Quote ---To my reading, Mab's anger, her rage, was in every scene; not just in the chapel.
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That may be your reading and your opinion. What I am saying is the author of the series, through his main character, is asking Mab pointedly about her losing control/anger specifically in the chapel. In Small Favor, in the chapel, Mab lost it and it made Harry's ears bleed.. He brings that up after Maeve's death in their little private conversation.

--- Quote ---A few years back, you got angry.  So angry that when you spoke it made people bleed from the ears.  That was why.  Because you figured out that the adversary had taken Maeve.  And it hurt.  To know that the adversary had gotten to her."
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In the chapel is the only time I recall Mab being so pissed that Harry's ears bled. You say she is talking through her malk because she is pissed to try and keep control, perhaps, but that still is part of the scene in the chapel.

--- Quote ---You put far more emphasis on "It was the knife" than I do:  that isn't even the moment her rage peeked through; that moment came when Harry named Thorned Namshiel (as the Fallen who assaulted Arctis Tor), nothing to do with the Athame / Maeve / Nemfection (unless it does:  what if Thorny did have something to do with the Athame...?) .

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I agree that that is confusing, however it possible to have two things on one's mind at one time.. Very possible for Mab, she through her malk and Harry are talking about her and the The Watcher having a common enemy... Then the thought hits her, Nemesis has infected her daughter.. Yeah, they seem unrelated, but then again during the attack on Arctis Tor, she and Lea were on ice taking the Nemesis cure.. Mentioning Thorny reminds Mab of that, and she has a real oh shit moment, and Harry's ears start to bleed.  That's what Harry is asking her about after Maeve died..
A] "That was why."
B] " Because you figured out that the adversary had taken Maeve."
C] "And it hurt."

No, Thorny had nothing to do with the Athame as far as we know, but the Athame had everything to do with bringing Nemesis to the Winter Court and ultimately her daughter's infection..

Thus Mab answers;
"It was the knife.."  Nothing is said about the attack on Arctis Tor, or Thorny or anything else..
When we first meet Mab back in Summer Knight she did make Harry impale his own hand on a letter spike, just to show him she could.. More sadistic show of power than anger, but I cannot remember any scenes outside of the chapel scene in Small Favor where she caused Harry's ears to bleed, can you?

Besides telling Harry "it was the knife," Mab does say she pays her debts.. You could possibly link that to what happened in Skin Game, that Mab wasn't simply setting up revenge on the Nic and company on behalf of Marcone, but it could turn out that Denarians do have something to do with Nemesis and she was avenging her daughter a bit in the process.. However so far that is more theory than anything.

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