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Goodman Grey, nemfected?

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Conspiracy Theorist:
I think that Harry as part of the wider BAt will as a side effect free Ivy of being the Archive by removing the need for her.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 06, 2023, 05:41:52 PM ---I think that Harry as part of the wider BAt will as a side effect free Ivy of being the Archive by removing the need for her.

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  I don't think that will ever happen because one of the functions of the Archive is to be the keeper of the history of mankind.  That will always be needed.

g33k:

--- Quote from: RobReece on September 05, 2023, 01:55:41 PM --- There was a question I'd had, the shot Kincaid took wasn't any past event written down or even discussed...
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If a phone call travels over any portion of digitized network -- and that's almost inevitable, these days -- then it's "written" within the remit of the Archive.  So Ivy had a copy of the phone-call.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 05, 2023, 05:39:25 PM ---Ivy is a teenager at this point, so of course she was eavesdropping on her ‘parent’. Occam’s razor.
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<heh>
A very "human" notion, I like it!  Thumbing your nose at the whole galaxy of spookyside wierdness-explanations.

But Jim has already confirmed that the Archive contains digital info, the entire Internet.
So, digitized phone lines, too.


--- Quote from: Mira on September 05, 2023, 06:09:33 PM ---Even so, it doesn't explain why she didn't insist that he didn't shoot Harry at all.
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Having accepted the contract, Kincaid would never relent.  Ivy cannot "insist."

Unless she is willing to permanently imprison him, engage in memory-erasing magic, or otherwise "remove him from play," Ivy can't stop the hit.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Unless she is willing to permanently imprison him, engage in memory-erasing magic, or otherwise "remove him from play," Ivy can't stop the hit.

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  Yet she managed to change it from instant death to probable death, which fits into Uriel's plan.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 07, 2023, 05:16:32 PM ---  Yet she managed to change it from instant death to probable death, which fits into Uriel's plan.
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Exactly.
She knew Kincaid's own code of honor would require him to place a "kill shot."  Barring outside interference, Harry certainly (not just "probably") would die:  Kincaid doesn't make that kind of mistake.

But that's why:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 05, 2023, 06:09:33 PM --- Even so, it doesn't explain why she didn't insist that he didn't shoot Harry at all.
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It remains unknown whether Ivy was party to the Mab/Odin/Uriel plot, or just inferred that they would situate themselves to be that "outside interference" needed for Harry to survive.

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