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Goodman Grey, nemfected?
Mira:
--- Quote ---It remains unknown whether Ivy was party to the Mab/Odin/Uriel plot, or just inferred that they would situate themselves to be that "outside interference" needed for Harry to survive.
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Yes, that is unknown, as far as facts go, we do know for a fact that Mab and Uriel conspired, she confessed that much when Harry woke up. It isn't too far a stretch to include the Archive/Ivy in the plot. Here is why, while the shot to the heart and not the head would make death probable but not instant, that still depended on Harry landing in the water, where Mab just happened to be waiting to receive him. Had he fallen on the deck he would have swiftly bled out and died.
Conspiracy Theorist:
The Uriel/Mab/Odin conspiracy is for the protection of humanity, the Archive is for the protection of human knowledge. The is a certain synchronicity in their purposes. If Harry is judged to be key for the survival of humanity then he is also key to the survival of human knowledge.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 09, 2023, 01:39:45 PM ---The Uriel/Mab/Odin conspiracy is for the protection of humanity, the Archive is for the protection of human knowledge. The is a certain synchronicity in their purposes. If Harry is judged to be key for the survival of humanity then he is also key to the survival of human knowledge.
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Yes, and to that point you'd have the Archive coldly assessing the situation and going along with the plan. However, the vessel of the Archive is a very human teenage girl who felt betrayed by the two humans she felt connected to and loved. In the end, human Ivy may have understood their motives, but she could not forgive them. Cutting herself off from them was a very human way of protecting herself emotionally. She also learned a hard lesson about the balance of human emotions verses the cold rational power of the Archive. Unlike her mother, she realized the only way to sanity for her was to divorce herself from her human emotions and become the Archive.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 09, 2023, 10:44:13 AM --- ... It isn't too far a stretch to include the Archive/Ivy in the plot. Here is why, while the shot to the heart and not the head would make death probable but not instant, that still depended on Harry landing in the water, where Mab just happened to be waiting to receive him. Had he fallen on the deck he would have swiftly bled out and died.
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Yeah; Ivy as one of those conspirators has a really strong argument.
OTOH, it's only a circumstantial argument... Jim very well may (but also very well may not) plot it that way, write it that way.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 09, 2023, 01:39:45 PM ---... the Archive is for the protection of human knowledge...
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No, the Archive is there to be Commander in Chief of the Oblivion War.
The "Human Knowledge" thing is just a cover.
AFAIK, info seldom (if ever) flows back out of the Archive, to "protect humanity's knowledge."
Secrets of Damascene steel were lost for about 1000 years; Roman concrete for 2000 years. They were rediscovered through extensive human effort & research... not "found" in some "lost historical record" (i.e. released from the Archive).
Used to be, the Archive would Oracle stuff out to humanity; but not practical use-it-now info, it was oracular-foretelling shit that mostly people couldn't use, would only recognize after the fat... after the tragic warnings were overlooked, came to pass, and people said "if only we had realized..."
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