The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Bob & the Nevernever: Did Jim make another error, or drop a clue?
Avernite:
Perhaps the skull protects AND limits Bob? Perhaps it makes it impossible for him to go into body mode.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 19, 2023, 10:25:09 AM ---At the same time there seem to be exceptions to the rule. The Fae cannot tell a direct lie, but Mab manages to tell indirect ones or ones by omission. When Harry calls her on that, her answer is that it is on him, because he messed up on his question...
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???
The "faeries cannot tell a lie" rule is *always* hedged-about with "cannot tell a direct lie" and "but that has never stopped them from deceiving" language. It's not an "exception" at all, it's very precisely what it is, and nothing at all to do with "honesty" or "good character" &c.
Faeries cannot tell a direct lie.
Faeries cannot cheat on the exact terms of a bargain.
etc.
But the human isn't entitled to honesty, nor to any "spirit of the bargain" or what they thought they were getting. Only the exact terms.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 25, 2023, 05:49:24 PM ---???
The "faeries cannot tell a lie" rule is *always* hedged-about with "cannot tell a direct lie" and "but that has never stopped them from deceiving" language. It's not an "exception" at all, it's very precisely what it is, and nothing at all to do with "honesty" or "good character" &c.
Faeries cannot tell a direct lie.
Faeries cannot cheat on the exact terms of a bargain.
etc.
But the human isn't entitled to honesty, nor to any "spirit of the bargain" or what they thought they were getting. Only the exact terms.
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In other words, they cheat.. In any bargain with them there is always a loop hole.. The Fae were the original lawyers.. ::)
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 27, 2023, 10:38:55 PM --- In other words, they cheat...
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No, they don't. It may not be fair, but the fae are not cheating.
It isn't fair when a chess Grandmaster beats a regular player; but that's not cheating, either.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on September 01, 2023, 08:19:00 PM ---No, they don't. It may not be fair, but the fae are not cheating.
It isn't fair when a chess Grandmaster beats a regular player; but that's not cheating, either.
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A Grandmaster uses skill and tactics to beat a regular player, no that isn't cheating.. But not true of the Fae, they cannot lie, yet use loopholes to get out of a bargain.. You might think you have an understanding with Mab, but what you think you understand and what she says she understood as she screws you and gets the better part of the bargain are two different things... I call that cheating... That is what happens when you ask most politicians a direct question, they rarely answer it directly.. You come away thinking you understand one thing, call them on it, and they will tell you what you think they said, wasn't what they said at all... Mab pulls that one all of the time, as do most Fae, that is why it is so dangerous to bargain with them...
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