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Bob & the Nevernever: Did Jim make another error, or drop a clue?
g33k:
(or has this already been discussed & resolved and I didn't spot it?)
So, Bob.
And the Nevernever.
Why is Bob always hurrying home to his skull??!?
Bob is (as of Changes, at Chichén Itzá) one of the most-powerful spirits Harry has ever met... and he has met some real doozies!
Why doesn't Bob just summon an ectoplasm body, like a Ramp flesh-mask or like Binder's goons do?
Why doesn't Bob just open a door to the Nevernever, nip across for the daylight hours, then back to the RealWorld at sunset?
TYVM for your thoughts, and/or links to the issue if it has already been resolved.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 16, 2023, 06:21:47 PM ---(or has this already been discussed & resolved and I didn't spot it?)
So, Bob.
And the Nevernever.
Why is Bob always hurrying home to his skull??!?
Bob is (as of Changes, at Chichén Itzá) one of the most-powerful spirits Harry has ever met... and he has met some real doozies!
Why doesn't Bob just summon an ectoplasm body, like a Ramp flesh-mask or like Binder's goons do?
Why doesn't Bob just open a door to the Nevernever, nip across for the daylight hours, then back to the RealWorld at sunset?
TYVM for your thoughts, and/or links to the issue if it has already been resolved.
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As you know, Bob is also on Mab's poop list, Bob is terrified of her. It is my theory that he doesn't do as you suggested, because he can't. Why? Mab has fixed it so he can't.. Also I don't think Bob is as powerful as you suggest, Evil Bob might be, but I think both are limited to being spirits of knowledge.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Bob knew how to kill immortals, he’s on every immortals poop list, and that would include the likes of Hades who have exclusively retired to the Never Never. His terror of Mab (but not Lea, an immortal who I suspect is his “Mother” and the source of this information) is genuine, Faerie lies cluster to the mortal realms to a trip into the Never Never will inevitably mean some contact with Winter)
I have previously posited that Bob could form an ectoplasmic body around his sanctum, it would dissolve with the dawn but Bob would be safe, and he could immediately reform it. I have suggested something similar for Bonnie is likely probably in Next Book
Now there may have been safeguards in Bob’s original sanctum preventing him from doing this as there are as regards him doing the bidding of the possessor of the Sanctum. However I believe the Sanctum created by Harry may not have had these safeguards, which is why Bob wanted it in the first place. I suspect we may therefore see Bonnie first manifest the physical form we saw in Skin Game.
However I suspect the Castle as intended to be run by a spirit of intellect may itself be an enormous Sanctum with the same control measures meaning that Bob could only manifest a physical body inside it (a nice symmetry to Bonnie) unaffected by the Dawn. Outside he would still need the skull for protection.
vincentric:
I don't believe he can.
I don't think any spirits except for ghosts have ever formed an ectoplasmic body on their own. And even the ghosts need to be "insane." Every other entity that has been seen so far, that has formed an ectoplasmic body was either summoned or is still corporeal and uses the ectoplasm for shape changing purposes.
It makes sense though. Otherwise, the world would be a far more dangerous place.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 16, 2023, 06:49:30 PM --- As you know, Bob is also on Mab's poop list, Bob is terrified of her ...
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Bob says that.
Honestly, I think he's lying.
Bob has been floating around the mortal realm serving wizards for centuries.
Do you honestly believe Mab wouldn't have taken him out (long-since!), if he was actually on her poop list?
I think he feigns fear of Winter & of Mab because he's actually Winter's agent, Mab's agent... faking this makes everyone think "Nah... he couldn't possibly be working for/with Winter!"
--- Quote from: Mira on August 16, 2023, 06:49:30 PM --- ...Also I don't think Bob is as powerful as you suggest ...
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That's how Harry describes Bob, when he sends the spirit out to protect Murphy against the LoON's in Changes.
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