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Why, historically, have the “Supernatural Nations” allowed humanity to become so
The_Sibelis:
It's not a curse, they're spirits of luck. Of wyrd things happening in the old school meaning. Milk was left out to sour because it was believe it attracted bad luck spirits to bleed their energy off into. Now it happens with things usually taken to freak chance. You're right about the beings being fed into the courts, but the parts intentionally left out.. like Lachesis' loom.(shown in MW cottage intentionally)Magic is what has classically been the way Fate enforces itself, especially active fate. When free will became standard they had to shove that power somewhere, they gave it to wizards via giving it to humanity with free Will. Greco Roman held the wall eh? Well Greco Roman still had both humans and Gods bow to Fate. Now they don't.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something 🤔
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 12, 2023, 06:26:38 PM ---Exponential population-growth & humanity's observe/experiment/improve rinse-lather-repeat treatment of the natural world really combined in ways that I suspect only the Denarians (and a very few others) had recognized would happen (I bet the Black Death was Anduriel's attempt to slow down humans!).
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And likely more plagues besides.
The interesting question is, was that for simple mustache-twirling villainy, or a sense of purpose? Such as, trying to constrain the population of possible Outsider-summoners?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 16, 2023, 12:33:04 AM --- ... The interesting question is, was that for simple mustache-twirling villainy, or a sense of purpose? Such as, trying to constrain the population of possible Outsider-summoners?
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Why not both?
I mean... they aren't "generic" villains, they're out to win souls for Hell.
Remember how Chauncy talked about his mother in Book 1 -- they thought she was coming to them (until her sudden redemption-arc with Malcolm Dresden).
But I'm pretty sure Anduriel (like Mab) usually makes layered & multifaceted plans, that advance multiple agendas at once.
So, Black Death ==> make people miserable ==> more people despairing & desperate, and doing Bad Things(tm)
But also: destroy literacy in Europe, set back multiple sorts of progress, etc. Keep humanity downtrodden.
I'd bet on some specific other things, like destroying the Church's cache of records on Denarians.
I'd also bet on other Denarians' involvement, and specific agendas of theirs, over & above whateve Anduriel was working on.
Con:
Some good points.
Would like to add my own Headcannon WAGS:
Odin is the former Gatekeeper- One eyed, Soulfire and everything.
Einherjaars original purpose was to Guard the Outer Gates. The Cream of Dead Warriors gets you a steady supply of Millions over the Millenia.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: SerScot on July 11, 2023, 07:47:56 PM ---Is that the White Council pushing back to protect humanity? If humans are “so dangerous” in large groups why did these supernatural nations allow the population to get so large and powerful?
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The Council and the Church between them cut a lot of the major supernaturals down to size, one way or another, and even in the modern world, the human race shelters in the protection of both, mostly without knowing it.
The Council themselves intentionally encouraged the rise of the Enlightenment and the acceptance of the scientific method, per WoJ a while back. It kind of got out of hand from their POV, but it still limited the power of the other supernaturals. The technological/industrial/high tech agricultural revolution, in turn, enabled the immense population increases of the last few centuries.
A lot of the supernaturals would probably love to cut the human race back down to size, but, again, the Council and the Church are in the way, and humanity is strong on its own now too, and the supernaturals are riven by their own rivalries as always.
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