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Con:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 28, 2022, 02:28:49 PM --- ??? So, is Jim saying he knows who is Warden now, Harry, understood, but now he seems to be talking double speak, and the guy before that was.. Then he goes on to say but the guy before /that/ was Kemmler so... ??? So is he implying that there was another Warden in-between Harry and Kemmler? If that is what he is implying, why isn't he or she named and what happened to him or her?
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Not including Harry.
So Jim knows who the past 2 Wardens were but isn't telling, but that Kemmler was 3 Wardens ago.
Tinfoil hat:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on September 28, 2022, 09:35:29 AM ---Are we that sure Vadderung is weaker than Mab? He has a lower rank in Winter, yes, but it also seems it is a part time gig.
Irwin is strong because he is only half human. He gets his size and strength from his Bigfoot heritage. We have no reason to think bigfoots immortal. Possibly just long lived. There are trees thousands of years old.
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I'm not saying they are immortal. Im using them as a example of what increased magical power gets you. Like wizards have a lot of power they live longer than weaker talents. Bigfoots have more as such live longer.
On the Odin thing. Odin passed on woj, and the fact he is a vassal of winter. The fight would be epic and probably a coin toss.
Also in Skin game he says Mab stays to keep Badassiel from listening in
Con:
Yeah Vadderung can tell Mab to get in line.
Kringle owes some loyalty to her, but by his own admission.
--- Quote ---'Little games of protocol are how one shows respect, especially to those whom one does not get along famously well. it can be tedious but generally is less trouble than a duel would be."
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Skin Game page 372
So Vadderung and Mab could duel if necessary, but the Kringle game keeps the respect level between them. Also Vadderung could fight Ferrovax if necessary so he's in the same league. Vadderung was the only one able to resist Ethniu when she barged into the party as well.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Con on September 28, 2022, 03:13:55 PM ---Not including Harry.
So Jim knows who the past 2 Wardens were but isn't telling, but that Kemmler was 3 Wardens ago.
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So the question remains, what happened to the other two? My tin foil hat guess, ::)or maybe not so tin foil, is the Council felt threatened by the power of the island and the leyline that runs under it. Considering what they went through with Kemmler, whom trying to tap into the power of the leyline and became totally corrupted and dangerous by it, decided to bump off the two newer Wardens. Considering that Harry seemed to be set up to get the boot from the Council, and the Blackstaff possible orders to do him in.. It is my guess that Eb killed off the other two Wardens on Council orders.. :o
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Con on September 28, 2022, 03:13:55 PM ---Not including Harry.
So Jim knows who the past 2 Wardens were but isn't telling, but that Kemmler was 3 Wardens ago.
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I think he is saying it is Kemmler, unknown warden, Harry. And he is not saying so we likely know who it was. First guess is Justin. Possibly even Eb pre-Blackstaff. Do we know when Kemmler was Warden? He may have been stripped long before his last death.
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