The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Winter Lady Restrictions
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 19, 2022, 11:40:32 AM ---If you use a thesaurus it will become clear. The Fae and in particular Mab take advantage of a knowledge mismatch, what they know and what you think you know. The perfect example of this happens in Small Favor when Mab makes Dresden her Emissary before asking him to be one. He thinks he can say no without understanding the cost. This is a knowledge mismatch. She knows Titania is out to murder him. This is also a form or coercion. The lie is letting him believe that he has a choice.
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Harry knew he had no choice. Mab called in a Favor. Mab also TOLD him Summer's agents were after him. She TOLD him that SHE was not the danger he had been warned of - that someone ELSE (Gruffs) were coming.
Mab actually was pretty up front. She wanted essentially a PI. Talked of his talent for finding things. Called in her marker. She told him about Titania's agents - granted, his survival further's Mab's cause, as dead men find no kidnapees. More than coerced, I'd say she used her leverage.
Knowledge mismatch? Happens all the time. If we sit down to a game of chess, and FIDE rates you at 1200 and me at 2200, there is a knowledge mismatch. They basically say i can sit there and guzzle Jack Daniels from the bottle and still I am expected to win. Nothing dishonest about it.
Mira:
Here is a wild thought, Mab or any other Fae will look you in the eye and tell you they cannot lie. Now that may be true, in which case bargaining with them shouldn't be all that dangerous, but it is.
So why is that? This is a wild theory that came to me while I was watching a special about King Tut..
Don't ask me why. ??? But here it is, when you are bargaining with a Fae, it is like looking in a mirror. We see our reflection, we think we are seeing truth, but the image is backwards.. So the Fae might indeed be telling the truth, but we lie to ourselvesas we hear it, or in another words it amounts to a lot of wishful thinking. That's why it is so dangerous to bargain with the Fae...
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Small Favor ---Anger flared in my chest and shoved my brain aside on its way to my mouth. “That wasn’t our deal,” I snapped. “Our bargain stipulated that I would choose which favors to repay and that you would not coerce me.”
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--- Quote from: Small Favor ---“I have not coerced you, nor dispatched any agent of mine to do so,” Mab continued, as if the break in the conversation had never happened. “Nonetheless, if you wish to survive, you will serve me. I assure you that Summer’s agents will not rest until you are dead.”
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Mab did indeed coerce him. She knew that naming him as Emissary would free Titania to attack him and that was the whole point. Mab lied. She named him Emissary before she asked him to serve. The term is fait accompli. Butcher deceived you by pulling a fast one. He expects you to ignore the implicit deception.
Mira:
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Mab did indeed coerce him. She knew that naming him as Emissary would free Titania to attack him and that was the whole point. Mab lied. She named him Emissary before she asked him to serve. The term is fait accompli. Butcher deceived you by pulling a fast one. He expects you to ignore the implicit deception.[/quote]
Yes, Mab did name Harry Winter's Emissary in Summer Knight, however it wasn't until the end of the book that Aurora met her death because Harry set Toot and the rest of Za'Gard on her. Before her death Titania had no real reason to attack him. Titania was pissed at the Winter Court, true, because she blamed Mab for her Knight's murder. I guess by extension you could say that since Harry was named Emissary and trying to get to the bottom of it on Mab's behalf she'd attack him too, but there was nothing personal about it. Since Summer Knight? Yes, Titania has a very personal grudge against Harry and will attack him if the rules allow.
morriswalters:
This was in Small Favor although Summer Knight sets it up and foreshadows it.
--- Quote from: Summer Knight ---Fear not for your little warriors. They were your weapon, and the only one accountable for their actions will be you. Take their steel with you, and it will be enough."
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So Mab knew that, if given an opportunity, that Titania would take revenge.
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