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Winter Lady Restrictions
Mira:
--- Quote ---The Fae are heartless, soulless creatures. They ARE natural lawyers. They draw these distinctions. They let you believe what they want you to believe. Whether or not it is true.
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Exactly, and like a lawyer, the Fae know the law better than you do, thus it is dangerous to try and bargain with them.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on October 19, 2022, 10:06:04 AM ---No. It has at its heart dishonesty. A lie is an out and out untruth. Misleading, even intentionally, is not lying.
Let us pretend magical ability can be quantified simply. All people can be classified on a scale from 1 (normals) to 10 (the Merlin).
Harry says:
"The White Council has inducted all wizards of a power level 6 or greater."
"I am a level 7"
One would usually assume Harry is part of the WC.
Well, he WAS. But he is not NOW.
But what did he say was untrue?
He WAS inducted.
He IS a 7.
He did not say "All wizards of power level 6 or greater ARE part of the WC" THAT would be a lie, as he was kicked out.
If he said "The WC screens wizards, and any they find of a level 6 or up are inducted" we are led to believe all level 6 and up are, or have been, part of the WC.
But Elaine is a 6.
But she flunked her tests and they think she's a 4. Harry knows this. But he tried to mislead you.
The Fae are heartless, soulless creatures. They ARE natural lawyers. They draw these distinctions. They let you believe what they want you to believe. Whether or not it is true.
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If you use a thesaurus it will become clear. The Fae and in particular Mab take advantage of a knowledge mismatch, what they know and what you think you know. The perfect example of this happens in Small Favor when Mab makes Dresden her Emissary before asking him to be one. He thinks he can say no without understanding the cost. This is a knowledge mismatch. She knows Titania is out to murder him. This is also a form or coercion. The lie is letting him believe that he has a choice.
Mira:
--- Quote ---If you use a thesaurus it will become clear. The Fae and in particular Mab take advantage of a knowledge mismatch, what they know and what you think you know. The perfect example of this happens in Small Favor when Mab makes Dresden her Emissary before asking him to be one. He thinks he can say no without understanding the cost. This is a knowledge mismatch. She knows Titania is out to murder him. This is also a form or coercion. The lie is letting him believe that he has a choice.
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But it never passes her lips, ergo she isn't lying. The Fae are not vanilla mortals, so they have a different point of view, so yeah, there are going to be communication problems. Since Mab was human once, she does understand the human point of view, and uses it to her advantage when bargaining.
LostInTime:
--- Quote from: g33k on October 17, 2022, 03:43:04 PM ---
I offer a WAG:
In this quote, Mab isn't saying "I will never lie."
She is saying, "I'm not lying... yet. But I will... after the Stars fall from the sky."
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I'll go you one better. We know WHEN Mab will lie. The last book is called Empty Night. A sky without stars.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: LostInTime on October 19, 2022, 07:21:42 PM ---I'll go you one better. We know WHEN Mab will lie. The last book is called Empty Night. A sky without stars.
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That could also be a premonition of her death. She could go to her grave truthful.
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