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Ed0517:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 16, 2022, 07:58:41 AM ---But Faerie Law governs "favors."  It isn't a Lady/Knight matter of the Mantles, but the Mantles bind them both to Faerie Law.  If Harry owes Molly a favor, it doesn't matter to Faerie Law that they are friends; nor even that they are Knight & Lady.  The obligations (of Molly collecting on a Favor owed her, and not Harry not cheating on a Favor he owes) is binding upon both of them.

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They can give a favor away, like Mab giving Harry the gift at Christmas for Little Maggie

Conspiracy Theorist:
I think that was a boon rather than a favour because Harry had performed well as Winter Knight that year, if Mab is weakest on the Summer Solstice she is strongest on the Winter. At the height of her power  she would reward those of her Court who have performed well over the year, unrelated to Christmas a few days later. Kringle, the Winter Lady, the Red Cap and the Erl King would all have been rewarded with boons for their sterling service  in the Battle of Chicago I wonder if Molly’s boon was the gift giving in The Good People? She not only performed well in the Battle but did so much in recruiting and dealing with Maeve’s backlog. The difference would be that you have to ask for it there and then, not hoard it for the future

The flip side there were probably quite a few executions and punishments for those who performed badly over the year. Nameless probably had something nasty gifted to him on the solstice by Mab, perhaps a chamois leather and turtle wax for the cleaning of the entire fleet of Winter vehicles in front of the rest of Winter? With a seething Ms Laplander aiding in a bikini, plotting on new ways to kill Nameless for this new indignity.

I like to kind of think Mab puts real effort and thought  into her minor punishments, like in Harry’s recovery.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 16, 2022, 08:30:50 PM --- They can give a favor away, like Mab giving Harry the gift at Christmas for Little Maggie
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I think this is wholly governed by Winter Law.

They MUST gift at Christmas (and it incurs no debt from the person being gifted-to).

They MUST trade favor-for-favor at other times, demanding high value if they are asked to give high value (n.b. they aren't required to actually give value for value; tricksy fae giving worthless returns on a bargain is one of the tropes (but so is giving startlingly-valuable returns; the fae are unpredictable!)).

I suspect Summer has some similar rules; like... they MUST dance the maypole in May.  I'm in the USA, so I don't know all those traditions; I suspect there's (much) more to it than that.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Christmas is the White Gods festival the Winter Solstice is Mab’s

Kringle does both.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 17, 2022, 12:32:46 AM ---Christmas is the White Gods festival the Winter Solstice is Mab’s

Kringle does both.
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That seems like a reasonable POV.  There seems to be this Mab/Odin/Uriel triumvirate, makes good sense some playing-around in the myths & Mantles is happening, too...

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