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Tinfoil hat:
1st time poster
This topic has been discussed before. But
In the past the wc has been criticized for its head off first ask qns never policy in regard to the warlocks. But think about this, most members of the wc are a couple hundred years old or older. Most of them either saw kemmler rise or have masters, mentors or friends who were there. I think its possible that kemmler had a trial and was placed under the doom. Instead of turning a new leaf, he became well him. The council members who voted for leniency probably carry a lot of quilt over what he eventually became.
Then comes harry Dresden. I mean come on. All the older wizards seem to be able to tell how strong someone is, and how strong they will come. Justin was trained by the council's vampire expert, justin was probably not a push over and harry beat him at 16. Given that morgan thought Dresden was a destroyer, I think the older generations have an idea or suspect what harry was meant to be. Everyone looks at harry and rightly sees a stronger, better version of kemmler who in a couple of centuries will be as strong as Ebenezer.

vincentric:
The White Council's take here would be far less troubling if they had a large scale program and policy for searching out and training youngsters with talent. As it is, they only find blossoming talent when they trip over it. And the Council is too concentrated geographically in Europe and Asia to do much good for the rest of the world.

Harry can become an example of the direction the Council needs to take by using his Wyldfae pact to form a network with the Paranet for searching out young talent and reporting the finds to set of regional Council offices. It could even become one of the main jobs of the Fae Courts after the BAT to assist humanity's recruiting in the role of protecting the Outer Gates.

Con:
Well done on your first post. Good topic to break out with.

So yeah generally accepted theory is everyone of the older members of the Council has Kemmler trauma. Morgan in particular.

If you read Luccio's short story theirs some more hitns there. Kemmler formed the Thule Soceity. Which was an actual fascist occult secret soceity. Part of him building up World War 1.

There's also a section in Paranet Papers that covers Simon Pietrovich and his role leading up to and including the Russian Revolution. Black Court Purge included but also that Pietrovich almost got taken out by the Blackstaff despite several warnings.

morriswalters:
Drakul speaking to Harry in the fight at the graveyard.
--- Quote ---“I would tell you to ask of your own White Council what they aren’t telling you, what they bred you for, and what they expect you to do.”

Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (p. 118). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
--- End quote ---
With regards Harry this implies that The White Council entered into the thing with their eyes wide open. It also seems clear that they are afraid of what they have made.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 07, 2022, 03:42:51 PM ---Drakul speaking to Harry in the fight at the graveyard.With regards Harry this implies that The White Council entered into the thing with their eyes wide open. It also seems clear that they are afraid of what they have made.

--- End quote ---

  Sorta, I think it more like they hadn't planned on Lord Raith taking out Margaret, nor Malcolm being murdered.  Then they really dropped the ball by not insisting that Eb track his grandson down and raise him instead of letting him languish in a orphanage and foster homes for the next five years.. Though yeah, since the fact that Margaret was Eb's daughter and therefore Harry his grandson was sort of kept from everyone.. Which begs the question of, why?  Further totally losing track of young Harry so that the now warlock, Justin could adopt him and raise him up for his own purposes.  So while the Council may have applied pressure to have Harry conceived, they sure screwed up once he was born.  It smells of too many secrets and half truths being kept from those who really needed to know.

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