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Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
morriswalters:
Just an observation. Somebody was looking for special children and using the courts and other institutions to find them. This has been a recurring theme in the books. Elaine was probably picked specifically because she was similar to Harry.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 17, 2022, 07:24:20 AM ---Just an observation. Somebody was looking for special children and using the courts and other institutions to find them. This has been a recurring theme in the books. Elaine was probably picked specifically because she was similar to Harry.
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I agree, Justin may have been tipped off about orphans born at the right time who display talent, and proceeded to adopt them.. Actually this might have been the motivation for Malcolm's murder.
If he had lived, once Harry began to show talent, surely Malcolm would have asked his father in law for help with the boy. That had to be prevented, so Malcolm was murdered.. Another thought, someone was paid off to lose Harry's records so Eb or Morgan wouldn't have been able to locate him with in the system, then made sure that when they were sure of his talent, that Justin would find him. I also think that while Elaine was born at the right time, she may not have been conceived under the right conditions.
Con:
I think being a star born as a requirement for the Dark Hallow is interesting as it could explain why Kemmler never managed it despite his obvious power, it could also explain his final death. The Dark Hallow weakened him enough after he was unable to complete it.
I think Elaine had the potential to be star born at one time or another, whether or not she still is... probably it feels like a waste if she wasn't.
Here;s the WOJ
--- Quote ---Is Elaine another candidate to wield power over Outsiders (the way Harry supposedly is)?
A: Yes. There’s a reason Justin picked the two of them. (Editor's note: The original asker posted this clarification)
Quote from: laura118b on August 23, 2010, 08:01:14 PM
…I asked him the question :)
The full question was if he had stated in the past, during an interview, that Elaine also was a candidate to have the potential to wield power over Outsiders. His longer answer was yes, he had said that before, that Harry and Elaine are just a few months apart age wise so for all intensive purposes the same age. He then told me that was one of the reasons that Justin had picked both of them to adopt, it wasn't just random kids with power. The key word in my question and his answer was potential.
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We know Listens is star born but he doesn't seem to have any direct access to magic or atleast he hasn't used any despite several life endangering appearances.
I like Drakul being immortal but not god like. If he was god like Rivers wouldn't have been able to block his teleporting ability. I just reread that scene yesterday. River blocks some of Drakuls abilities in order for them to have a physical fight. Drakul being on level with Vadderung seems about right. Particularly if you know given Drakul means Dragon and Vadderungs feelings about Dragons.
Mira:
We don't know about Cowl, if it weren't for Bob, Harry, and Sue, he would have pulled off Darkhallow.. So is Cowl starborn? What happened to him anyway? He hasn't been heard from since White Night and had given the impression of being a major player.
morriswalters:
There is a certain level of Butcher being Butcher in all of this. My mother could be Starborn for as much specificity as he gives. But obviously birth date isn't sufficient in and of itself. Where you are when you were born seems to be important. So the date is knowable but the location may not be and the only way to know is to test for it. Or maybe Margaret figured it out. Which might explain why Malcolm wasn't at the birth.
If you want to go all tin hat, the fight with Justin may have been that test. Put Harry on the run and see what happens when he crosses paths with an Outsider. If he's Starborn he passes, if he isn't, he gets eaten. Easy Peasy and here is your guaranteed Genuine Starborn Certificate.
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