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g33k:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 25, 2022, 02:28:30 AM --- ... And I agree, I think Mab is worried about the consequences of making Winter a little warmer. Your solution to killing Molly is dark. But it might work too. Faeries are such lawyers after all.
You're probably right here. I think when Mab asks for a persons death, she means it. But the idea of killing the person Molly was is an interesting notion nonetheless ...
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I think Mab is simply  worried that Molly is too young, inexperienced, and weak  (in terms of personal power, willpower,  as well as "Wintery" coldness/hardness) to be an effective Queen.  She will simply be overmatched just by Titania... let alone by the duties of the Outer Gates!  And thus, Mab fears... Winter's purpose would fail, and fall; and with it, all creation.

Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 25, 2022, 04:00:34 AM ---Sadist is a good description of what Butcher does with the character not what he is. He's always looking to torture Harry.

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Yes in new ways, parenthood is a whole new bag and Jim is looking forward to Maggie’s first crush and how it will put Harry through the wringer and Jim is probably going to enjoy the break in format for NEXT BOOK to try new things on Harry, such as dealing with the mundane soul destroying drew of life as it interfaces with Harry very unordinary life for example having Harry audited by the IRS

“Mr Dresden, you claim everything you owned in your home and office and car was destroyed, you then claimed you were dead for six months and then stranded on an island no on can find on the maps before re-appearing with a suspicious amount of wealth, claiming two dependents one of whom doesn’t appear to exist, before taking up residence in a castle formerly owned by Chicago’s godfather. And you think you shouldn’t be audited? Seriously?”

Harry would have to hire the Swartalves to do his taxes, they probably moved to the US because of their appreciation of the complexity and nitpicking nature of the US Tax Code.

Jim has already set up the planning of the wedding over the year, with Harry caught between Lara and Molly. Harry will hate all of it, except the cake tasting, which of course Jim will make him miss or which is completely disrupted by a monster attack. Now that is a bit of Battle Ground foreshadowing.

Another bit of foreshadowing, in Peace Talks about Mister getting on in age, and Harry has to deal with an unwell and ailing cat, vet visits, preparing Maggie (and himself) for Misters demise, stretched out over the the year as Mister visibly fades.

Basil:
Peter Principle

Some people who are good at what they do are not suited to being promoted.  Mab apparently believes that Molly, while a good Winter Lady, is not suited to the top-job. 

I suspect that Mab would like Lara to be put into the position of Winter Queen if something goes sideways.  However, given the mechanisms of Winter, at least as far as I understand them, if something would happen to Mab, then Molly would inherit the title. 

Basically, Mab is saying that Harry should take out Molly, which would give the Queen of Winter title to Lara and then Lara could find a new Winter Lady.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Not sure, the wedding plans came after the Battle, not before.

Arguably Harry when wed to Lara would have a similar enough role with her as he already does with Mab (consort) that is creates a potential link to the Winter Queen Mantle so that it would go to Lara rather than Molly (say by putting Molly in a circle so the Mantle can’t get to her and instead goes to the next candidate, Lara).

Mab wanted HaRa to tie the knot immediately upon the end of the Battle, it was only when Lara wanted to wait did she agree, BUT the plan to announce the engagement and have HaRa seen publicly may work better if in the slightly longer term to create that link.

Mab is succession planning and Lea is NOT part of that plan, Molly is and I suspect Lara is. Mab needing help with documents from the White Court? Please. Mab  was setting Lara up to owe her a favour when she knew the favour Lara would ask, same with Nick, and same favour, the services of Harry as the Winter Knight.

One tends to think of Mab’s death freeing her Mantle, but what if instead Mother Winter has indicated to Mab she intends to abdicate? From the Little we have seen of the Mothers, Winter seems to be feeling her age more, and if I remember correctly she’s the original? Global warming can’t be doing her any favours. Maybe the return of the Blackstaff will signal a change?

g33k:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on January 25, 2022, 08:03:24 PM --- Mab is succession planning and Lea is NOT part of that plan, Molly is and I suspect Lara is... 
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I suspect Lea used to be part of the succession plan (if only a contingency); but the Athame cut a permanent Nemesis-wound into her, and she's no longer suitable.

Lara seems very "maybe" to me:  no real Winter channel there.  Would marriage to the WK give such a channel?  I... guess?  Maybe?  But also very much maybe not.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on January 25, 2022, 08:03:24 PM ---One tends to think of Mab’s death freeing her Mantle, but what if instead Mother Winter has indicated to Mab she intends to abdicate? From the Little we have seen of the Mothers, Winter seems to be feeling her age more, and if I remember correctly she’s the original? Global warming can’t be doing her any favours. Maybe the return of the Blackstaff will signal a change? 
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I agree:  I think we may well see Mother Winter depart, and the Mantle suck Mab out from under the Winter Queen mantle... and if Molly is still Winter Lady...

I don't think MW is "feeling her age..." I think she's feeling the lack of her walking-stick.  I suspect (I even hope!) we'll see her order the WK to "fetch me my walking-stick, boy!"
 

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