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Harry should have trusted Ramirez
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 23, 2023, 03:55:42 AM --- Agreed, only excuse I can see as to why Harry didn't hit back, is between exhaustion, his injuries [remember a Winter Knight can block the pain, but not the damage], and his grief over Murphy, Harry was very vulnerable... Carlos simply kicked him when he was down, as did the Council.
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Also, just that Harry *likes* Carlos, has been thinking of him as a friend.
In the face of someone he thinks of as an enemy -- the Merlin, or Mavra, or early/mid Morgan -- he's VERY verbally aggressive.
In the face of a friend -- even a currently-becoming-a-not-friend -- he's much less so.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on January 23, 2023, 06:07:04 PM ---Also, just that Harry *likes* Carlos, has been thinking of him as a friend.
In the face of someone he thinks of as an enemy -- the Merlin, or Mavra, or early/mid Morgan -- he's VERY verbally aggressive.
In the face of a friend -- even a currently-becoming-a-not-friend -- he's much less so.
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Yes, it was just one more blow that Harry had to suffer, because that he had considered Carlos a friend. That is one of the main things I think that really set Michael off. It would have been an interesting scene, if Michael had been able to tell Carlos what he really thought.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Michael is the one person who knows pretty much everything about Harry, possession by a shadow Denarian, suicide attempt, superweapons, Demonreach, his family and still loves and respects Harry. If Carlos cannot take Harry’s word, he should be able to take that of Michael Carpenter former Knight of the Cross, fellow Catholic and living saint (I think he is still an agent of the White God, but in a different fashion, like but unlike Father Forthill).
Carlos couldn’t do that and made Michael swear.
The Title is wrong, Ramirez Should Have Trusted Harry. Carlos is keeping secrets from Harry, the tracker, his true instructions from the White Council, not telling him how he got injured, still refusing to admit he is a virgin, but who is vouching for Carlos?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on January 25, 2023, 12:51:31 PM ---Michael is the one person who knows pretty much everything about Harry, possession by a shadow Denarian, suicide attempt, superweapons, Demonreach, his family and still loves and respects Harry. If Carlos cannot take Harry’s word, he should be able to take that of Michael Carpenter former Knight of the Cross, fellow Catholic and living saint (I think he is still an agent of the White God, but in a different fashion, like but unlike Father Forthill).
Carlos couldn’t do that and made Michael swear.
The Title is wrong, Ramirez Should Have Trusted Harry. Carlos is keeping secrets from Harry, the tracker, his true instructions from the White Council, not telling him how he got injured, still refusing to admit he is a virgin, but who is vouching for Carlos?
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At this point? No one, he is a Warden of the White Council, he needs no one. Maybe that's part of the problem, it could be how Justin, a trusted Warden was able to steal Bob under their noses during that final raid on Kemmler and go warlock.. Heck, he might have been already a warlock at that point.
prince lotore:
Has anyone brought up when Harry needed to be talking to people and reassuring them that he hasn't gone rougue Carlos forces him to work security. Carlos knew about the vote before Harry did and he chose let him get thrown out just to keep a closer eye on him. In my opinion Carlos has sold himself and is not Harry's friend
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