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Harry should have trusted Ramirez
morriswalters:
Whatever works for you. I'm going to try and support it but the WOJ database is almost useless on search. I'll either post it or I won't.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Nemesis role is as saboteur to sow discord and dissent behind the “enemy” lines and weaken the current defenders of the Gates. Killing the Queen is no good because of the Succession of Mantles. Winter’s role is actually the protector of humanity. Destroy humanity then Winter loses its purpose and the Gates fail. That is why all the apocalypses, or attempts at the same. Damage humanity enough through an ice age, or a plague or a massive super explosion by blowing up Demonreach’s failsafe, or setting a Titan on humanity then it weakens the Defenders enough for the Gates to be breached.
In the Mirrorverse we have to presume Harry did not stop the Summer Knights power going into Winter (strengthening Winter) causing an Ice Age. Harry did not stop the plague Nicodemus unleashed with the fake Shroud. Harry did not stop the Red Court decimating the White Council and getting its fangs deeper into humanity. Harry did not become Warden of Demonreach meaning someone else maybe and is releasing its inhabitants on humanity, and there is a Titan roaming free, taking out City after City. That may well be the Mirror Universe that will appear in Mirror Mirror, a terminator style apocalypse where humanity is losing and losing badly and the Gates are crumbling.
If the Gates are breached, yes Mab will be dead, so will everyone else in that universe, the White God probably deletes any universe where that occurs to prevent all of reality being affected, plus any universe(s) which split from the infected universe. Thus if the Mirrorverse gates fail then it will be deleted but not the Prime Dresdenverse as they split in Grave Peril.
If Harry defeats Nemesis (including the Black Council, and quite possibly their dupes like Nicky) then the Dresdenverse Prime is safe as well as all split off universes from it. At least for now.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Nemesis role is as saboteur to sow discord and dissent behind the “enemy” lines and weaken the current defenders of the Gates. Killing the Queen is no good because of the Succession of Mantles. Winter’s role is actually the protector of humanity. Destroy humanity then Winter loses its purpose and the Gates fail. That is why all the apocalypses, or attempts at the same. Damage humanity enough through an ice age, or a plague or a massive super explosion by blowing up Demonreach’s failsafe, or setting a Titan on humanity then it weakens the Defenders enough for the Gates to be breached.
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Yes, that is why Nemesis tried to infiltrate the Winter Court with the Knife, and with the infection of Maeve nearly succeeded. I think we have yet to see the full repercussions from that. Yes, seemingly it all turned out but because she internalizes so much we don't know what having to order the death of her daughter and death of her daughter did to Mab.
morriswalters:
Mother Summer tells you the possible outcomes. With Mab dead and Maeve in charge the brakes would be off. Harry would eventually end up like Slate and without Mab to enforce the accords Summer would go to war to protect humanity, which is Titania's purpose, again per Mother Summer. Cold Days was the end of an arc and it ties up most of the mysteries of the first half.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 04, 2022, 05:46:43 PM ---Mother Summer tells you the possible outcomes. With Mab dead and Maeve in charge the brakes would be off. Harry would eventually end up like Slate and without Mab to enforce the accords Summer would go to war to protect humanity, which is Titania's purpose, again per Mother Summer. Cold Days was the end of an arc and it ties up most of the mysteries of the first half.
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Yes, but we also have the conversation between Harry and Mab after Maeve's death, and Mab admits to being human once. Kringle warns Harry to not have this kind of conversation in front of others because of her pride and perhaps fear of appearing vulnerable. In my opinion this hints of possible future problems with Mab aside from the obvious ones. It may have even been a factor in Mab ordering Harry to kill Molly if something happens to her. I know we've come up with a lot of explanation, like she wants Lara to be her successor or that Molly isn't ready so kill her off. However this order came before she proposed the marriage between Harry and Lara, so if Mab died, and the mantle automatically passed to Molly, Mab is asking Harry to kill his Queen. It is just very odd is all I am saying.
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