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Harry should have trusted Ramirez
morriswalters:
Actually Mab telling Harry to kill Molly is foreshadowed in Cold Days. When Harry is trying to determine if or not to obey Mab. Mother Summer asks Harry how Maeve would treat him. Molly is on the same horse she is just a different rider. Maeve hated Harry. Molly loves him. It's two different faces of the same coin. And Mab tells Harry as much in Battle Ground.
--- Quote ---“Everyone,” she said, “thinks that hate and love are somehow opposite forces. They are not. They are the same force, facing opposite directions.” She glanced aside at me. “Love is a fire, my Knight. Love turned the wrong way has killed as many as hate.
Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (p. 394). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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The point of my argument with CT is that the primary story arc in the books through Cold Days represents an attack on the Fae Courts, though primarily Winter and Mab. The Fae get more time on the page in the books through Cold Days then any of the other characters. They show up in all of these.
Grave Peril
Summer Knight
Dead Beat
Proven Guilty
Small Favor
Changes
Ghost Story
Cold Days
Mira:
--- Quote ---Actually Mab telling Harry to kill Molly is foreshadowed in Cold Days. When Harry is trying to determine if or not to obey Mab. Mother Summer asks Harry how Maeve would treat him. Molly is on the same horse she is just a different rider. Maeve hated Harry. Molly loves him. It's two different faces of the same coin. And Mab tells Harry as much in Battle Ground.
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I don't think Maeve hated Harry, I don't think she was capable of love or hate, not where Harry comes in. I think she loved her mother and it turned into hate or more like the quote you sight. I also don't think it is the same horse exactly either. Even if it is the same horse, it is all about how it is ridden that counts in the end, that is why jockeys are so important.
morriswalters:
Argue it with Mab, she stated it in the text, I'm not that cretive
Conspiracy Theorist:
Maeve didn’t know the difference between love and hate, she was deeply insane only held together at all by her Mantle.
This wasn’t a new development, however the nemfection of Lea distracted Mab from dealing with Maeve and Lloyd Slate and the existing problems in her Court. She had placed the Redcap to watch Maeve because of them.
Lea was a diversion. It delayed Mab taking action against Maeve.
Maeve was intent on taking action against humanity, not in succeeding Mab.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on February 05, 2022, 10:09:37 AM ---Maeve didn’t know the difference between love and hate, she was deeply insane only held together at all by her Mantle.
This wasn’t a new development, however the nemfection of Lea distracted Mab from dealing with Maeve and Lloyd Slate and the existing problems in her Court. She had placed the Redcap to watch Maeve because of them.
Lea was a diversion. It delayed Mab taking action against Maeve.
Maeve was intent on taking action against humanity, not in succeeding Mab.
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I actually agree with this, she was warped even before she got infected with the Knife. While Mab didn't realize Maeve was infected until it was too late to cure her, I don't think infected Lea as a distraction is the reason. Mab, I think loved both her daughters, and in truth willfully blinded herself to the short comings, excesses, and twisted behavior of her daughter, who also was the Winter Lady. Even with Red Cap keeping an eye on her, it wasn't enough and she still didn't catch the fact that her daughter was infected, the prior behavior was that outrageous. That is the main reason why Molly has been so busy, she has been playing catch up and making up for the hundred fifty years plus of Maeve's misbehavior and neglect of her job.
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