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Harry should have trusted Ramirez
Mira:
What could he have said though? The point is, that tracking device was secretly placed on Harry
beforeanything went down, by his friend, Carlos. That tossed any trust out the window. If you believe that nothing you are about to say will be believed or worse used against you, you keep your mouth shut. That is why when you are arrested and read your rights one of them is "the right to remain silent." Why? Because it can, and will be used against you.. It is also why it is a good idea not to say anything until a lawyer is present.. No, someone talked Carlos into putting that device on Harry, you really think he'd buy anything Harry said?
b4utoo:
Sorry I ain't saying shit if someone acted against me first lol
And since when telling someone partial story is acceptable
Mira:
--- Quote from: b4utoo on December 01, 2021, 12:34:27 PM ---Sorry I ain't saying shit if someone acted against me first lol
And since when telling someone partial story is acceptable
--- End quote ---
Exactly, and Carlos acted against Harry first, that is why when they stopped him on the way back from Lara's place Harry was pissed. Cap that off with a sex scan without his permission and implying all kinds of things, Harry really would have been stupid to trust Carlos from that point. And yes, Harry perhaps could have handled it better, but he was really emotionally upset about Thomas.. Also even if he did "trust" Carlos enough to talk to him, as you say, Harry didn't even have a partial story for him, Harry didn't know much more about the assassination attempt than Carlos.. But that is only part of the story from Carlos as well, why the tracking device? What Carlos wanted from Harry occurred before the assassination attempt, when he attached the tracking device, but on the beach he never asked Harry to talk to him.. He didn't even ask any questions so Harry could talk to him.. As in "about what?" And it went down pretty much the same way on the road back from Lara's place. "Talk to me.." "About what? How much kitty litter Mister goes through?"
toodeep:
Harry had 4 options as I see it:
1. Say nothing. This is what he chose
2. Say I have to help Thomas, will you help? I can't explain anything about why
3. Say I have to help Thomas, will you help? I need to do it for Winter Knight reasons.
4. Say I have to help Thomas, will you help? He's my brother.
Considering they were worried about him being bent up and not being himself, 2 wouldn't have worked. They don't understand Winter the way Harry does, 3 would have made them trust him even less. 4 is just waaaay too dangerous to share. Harry made the right choice.
Harry should take him to the outer gates and explain to him what's really in play and Winter's role in it. That might make Carlos less worried about Harry being mind bent. There is a really serious reason for Winter to be playing hardball that all reality should be supporting. As a matter of fact, Harry should take Butters, Fix, and maybe even Goodman or anyone else he plans to need to depend on that he can get on that little "field Trip" I think that would make a great short story in 12 months or whatever the new book is going to be. There are some people Harry really needs trusting him just a little more than they are right now and cluing them into the big picture would help with that.
b4utoo:
You don't want to do a field trip you don't want to let people know about the outer Gates because that's just another venue the bad guys to attack. Not everybody is an outsider they might have different reasons to f*** s*** up
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