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Is Murphy truly dead
Conspiracy Theorist:
I think the proscription on not going beyond the veil is that in almost every case it works out poorly trying to bring the dead back. You get it wrong and end up with Blamps, or go down the corpse taker route and seek to possess someone else with the ongoing body dysmorphia. The only route where it works out properly is uniting the correct soul with the correct body and I suspect the only way to do that is I think Soul Fire. It worked for Jesus, but I think the White God in whose sole gift Soul Fire is has laid limitations upon its use by Odin, they have to be superlative warriors and they cannot return to the mortal realm until lost from living memory.
The White God can therefore make a dispensation for Murphy when Jim he thinks it appropriate to do so.
If Odin dies the Einenjhar do as well, but Harry has Soul Fire as well and is not subject to the proscription that Odin has, and can bring back Murphy a second time, this time bound to his life, she would live as long as him, one of her perennial worries.
Now the Soul Fire resurrection is a WOJ, Harry doesn’t know this yet.
And of course Harry gets to see Murphy die before his eyes AGAIN. Jim gets to write a second death scene for her. Irrististable.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 15, 2021, 10:16:25 PM ---Maybe, maybe not... What if Odin merely has their body, but not their soul? I don't really think being a cold blooded killer is the defining part of Murphy's soul..
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Do you think Gard and Freydis are just cold blooded killers? Would a cold blooded killer be getting drunk on the aftermath of the battlefield to mourn? Murphy's sparring partner in GS sure seemed to be all there. The defining part of Murphy would be a warrior that doesn't shrink from confronting evil even when outclassed and outnumbered. If you assume Odin/Vadderung is a good guy, then that's the ultimate goal of the Einerjahr. The mercenary stuff is just practice to hone their skills with modern weapons and tactics. Monoc's deal with Marcone is for magical security. We never see them doing routine criminal stuff beyond Gard being present as a bodyguard.
Conspiracy Theorist:
They are there for Ragnarok, the Mercenary work is to keep their hand in as warfare developes.
If Ragnarok is the BAT there isn’t time for Murphy and Hendrick’s to be lost from memory before Odin is destined to die, taking them with them. If Gard is aware of this possibility then she is truly grieving Hendick’s.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 15, 2021, 10:16:25 PM ---Maybe, maybe not... What if Odin merely has their body, but not their soul?
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Then it is not an afterlife. Then she did not go there. Then the whole story makes no sense at all.
--- Quote ---I don't really think being a cold blooded killer is the defining part of Murphy's soul..
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That is not how Gard formulated it.
--- Quote --- warriors who died for family, for duty, for love
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Again in everything Gard says it is about her, not her body. And it is not about what she killed, it is about what she defended.
We have to follow Jim’s story here, not what we think we know about Valhalla.
Basil:
Is Murphy dead?
Sort of, but she's off the board -- considering how long many of the people that she associated with will live -- Molly, Harry, Thomas, Marconne, Maggie, Ramirez, Lara, etc. are effectively immortal, if not actually immortal. Even if you take Thomas and Lara out of the list, chances are that one of these people is going to live for three, four maybe five centuries.
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