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Is Murphy truly dead
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on November 13, 2021, 05:13:06 PM ---Gard acted as if she were bereaved, and she would know. For all we know she might have been contemplating a future, a family with Hendricks, and that is now gone.
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Exactly, she didn't take much comfort in the facts that Hendricks would be whooping it up in
Valhalla drinking ale, fighting where needed, possibly getting killed to be born again to do it all over again. What she was mourning is the man she knew and loved is gone, until all memory of what she knew and loved is gone, he will return, but he won't be that man.
vincentric:
Nothing says they won't be themselves. The rule is that all their mortal friends, enemies, associates and loved ones will have forgotten them. They'll have to make all new connections and may change over time but anyone like say, a time travelling wizard or an immortal mantle holder, could still sit down and have a beer with them and talk about old times.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on November 15, 2021, 01:57:05 PM ---Nothing says they won't be themselves. The rule is that all their mortal friends, enemies, associates and loved ones will have forgotten them. They'll have to make all new connections and may change over time but anyone like say, a time travelling wizard or an immortal mantle holder, could still sit down and have a beer with them and talk about old times.
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Do you really think any of the Einenjhar that we've met at Marcone's place or elsewhere are like the mortals they used to be? I doubt it, other than their ability as warriors, friends and family are not part of their lexicon, they are dead. It is a kindness to those left behind I think, that they cannot return until all memory of them is lost.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 15, 2021, 04:25:42 PM ---Do you really think any of the Einenjhar that we've met at Marcone's place or elsewhere are like the mortals they used to be? I doubt it, other than their ability as warriors, friends and family are not part of their lexicon, they are dead. It is a kindness to those left behind I think, that they cannot return until all memory of them is lost.
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Of course they are. Just like the souls in Hades or those in heaven. Those are afterlives otherwise they wouldn’t be. It is Murphy who went to walhalla, this is different from things like black court vampires.
Like Uriel said. You are a soul, you have a body. The soul is the defining part and where Murphy’s soul is is Murphy.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on November 15, 2021, 04:53:04 PM ---Of course they are. Just like the souls in Hades or those in heaven. Those are afterlives otherwise they wouldn’t be. It is Murphy who went to walhalla, this is different from things like black court vampires.
Like Uriel said. You are a soul, you have a body. The soul is the defining part and where Murphy’s soul is is Murphy.
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Maybe, maybe not... What if Odin merely has their body, but not their soul? I don't really think being a cold blooded killer is the defining part of Murphy's soul..
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