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Mab chose Molly

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 16, 2021, 03:34:40 PM ---Indeed, especially when a girl's hymen can be broken in very innocent ways, like a hard fall on her butt for example.  The girl is merely a victim of the beliefs of her family and the societal cultural/religious ones around her.  You and I might call it arcane ignorance, but it's a traditional viewpoint that is very hard to reverse.

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But to go back to the Dresden files, this is the context of all the old stories about virginity. It can be highly idealised beyond recognition but scratch it a bit and it is there. I don’t think we should idealise and sugarcoat it. It is a denial of history.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on October 16, 2021, 07:43:37 PM ---But to go back to the Dresden files, this is the context of all the old stories about virginity. It can be highly idealised beyond recognition but scratch it a bit and it is there. I don’t think we should idealise and sugarcoat it. It is a denial of history.

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And I think that Jim is playing it that way as well, it is the tragedy of Maeve in a lot of ways, and may become one for Molly as well.

bigdangmoose:
You know, not to put a complete stop to the conversation, but I thought this whole debate was put to bed awhile ago.

The virginity aspect was a worthless argument because Sarrisa is a Lady now and she went out and lived a life, trying to be anything that she wanted to be. She knew of the chastity that the Lady has to endure. And if she knew that, she probably got busy with someone somewhere down the line. And, from Jim's own mouth, we know that Sarrisa and Fix are in a relationship. That woman in Fix's bed back in PG wasn't Lily.

As for Mab's intrest in Molly, Jim said that Mab didn't know anything about her until PG, when Fetch Prime brought her to Arctis Tor. The whole thing about Lea asking for Michael's first born in GP must mean that Lea knew about Molly so Mab must know about her is wrong. Mab learned about Molly in PG; saw who she was, who her parentage was, and what Harry would do for her. And with that knowledge, got a leverage on Harry.

And as for the fae blood, I can't say that she 100% doesn't have any. But, with the theory that Priscilla has, that being that Molly got a face full of wellspring magic in PG, or the fact that Molly completely shut herself down and away from everyone after Changes and Lea was the one to keep her alive, train her, teach her how to think about the world, that would change her at her core and open herself up to the mantle. Those points make more sense then trying to say/prove that Molly has Fae blood somewhere in her past.

Finally, Mab never said what she had planned for Molly. People have always assumed it was to be the Summer Lady, but she never said anything to that being the outcome. The only thing that makes it a possibility is that Mab said she thought Molly was more suited for Summer. But I have always believed that Mab had even more plans. I think she was going to use Molly as a pressure point/a bargaining chip against Harry. I also think she was going to use Molly as a weapon against HHWBs. Molly is a strong mind mage, one of the strongest we have seen, especially for her age. With the Council banning anything to deal with the mind, Molly's talent would go to waste. But under Mab's tutelage, maybe she could detect/fight the Walker's. That's been my theory. Mab isn't one to have one backup plan, so just to be a Lady doesn't fit with me.

Arjan:
That same word of Jim about Fix and Molly tells us that they kept their relation well within the boundaries so the mantle would not take action.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Arjan on October 18, 2021, 09:10:08 PM ---That same word of Jim about Fix and Molly tells us that they kept their relation well within the boundaries so the mantle would not take action.

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indeed it specifically mentioned Fix having a chaste relationship with her. And as mentioned above, sarissa made a deal with mab, mab obviously wanted sarissa for a possible lady role, so of course she'd have a clause to make sure she'd remain a viable option.

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