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Mab chose Molly
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: LostInTime on October 14, 2021, 07:20:00 PM ---
Bob, like Harry, is not an unimpeachable source. Most of the time he's near enough to absolutely correct. But even back to Fool Moon, he listed all the werewolves, but missed Tara West's type of werewolf.
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Tera is not a werewolf. Werewolves are base human. Harry can't soulgaze her, IIRC - Tera is not human. She's a shapechanger, but a different species. Likely not really canis at all.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: vincentric on October 16, 2021, 12:55:19 AM ---While I'm not going to weigh in on whether rape cancels virginity we have a pretty convincing argument that it is not required to become a Lady. Unless one believes that Sarissa was a virgin at the time she took the mantle.
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Could have been part of the deal with her mother.
There are differences between what we want words to mean, what we think words should mean, what the words mean for other people here, now, in the past and somewhere else.
The ideas Jim uses in his stories are old ideas and these ideas are not always nice.
We like to think marriage is between two persons with mutual consent. Other people have other ideas. The whole concept of virginity has a lot of negative bagage from the past.
--- Quote --- 28 “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not …
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The world were some of these tales come from is a world where a women must be a virgin to get married and where a women is forced to poverty and destitute if she gets spoiled and can only be saved from that fate by this rule. This was all very literal. There are wedding practices were the girl was/is checked for it and the bloody sheet is shown.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The world were some of these tales come from is a world where a women must be a virgin to get married and where a women is forced to poverty and destitute if she gets spoiled and can only be saved from that fate by this rule. This was all very literal. There are wedding practices were the girl was/is checked for it and the bloody sheet is shown.
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Yup, and some women got very clever about it too, like hiding a vile of blood under the pillow to spill on the sheets. To this day some aspect of the importance of virginity is practiced in all cultures and it can get very ugly for the one raped. Won't go further because me fears skating too
close to the thin ice of forbidden topics.. Lets just say there is plenty of material for Jim to draw upon for the sex rules for Ladies of the Fae Courts.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 16, 2021, 10:51:03 AM ---Yup, and some women got very clever about it too, like hiding a vile of blood under the pillow to spill on the sheets. To this day some aspect of the importance of virginity is practiced in all cultures and it can get very ugly for the one raped. Won't go further because me fears skating too
close to the thin ice of forbidden topics.. Lets just say there is plenty of material for Jim to draw upon for the sex rules for Ladies of the Fae Courts.
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Now there are virginity repair operations. There is something terribly wrong if a girl feels compelled to do this: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51189319
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 16, 2021, 01:56:14 PM ---Now there are virginity repair operations. There is something terribly wrong if a girl feels compelled to do this: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51189319
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Indeed, especially when a girl's hymen can be broken in very innocent ways, like a hard fall on her butt for example. The girl is merely a victim of the beliefs of her family and the societal cultural/religious ones around her. You and I might call it arcane ignorance, but it's a traditional viewpoint that is very hard to reverse.
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