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Notes on Contagion
The_Sibelis:
I'd personally link this to the summoning and mirroring conversation in PG. Based on previous theory combined with BG Nemesis I'd place a large wager that those things connected to either side of the love, faith, and hope trio are primary vectors for contagion. Molly in particular is a candidate for being infected through the use of fear against free will, and in doing so opened herself up to whatever mouse caught a wiff of outside the station. I can also make the case for Nemesis intentionally targeting young, potentially magical women with a propensity to go insane for one reason or another. Molly, Archive, Maeve, Justine. Me thinks Nemesis takes after her namesake and is inherently female.
*And... Is not black magic/contagion simply the primary conduit?
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 05, 2021, 03:17:49 AM ---I'd personally link this to the summoning and mirroring conversation in PG. Based on previous theory combined with BG Nemesis I'd place a large wager that those things connected to either side of the love, faith, and hope trio are primary vectors for contagion. Molly in particular is a candidate for being infected through the use of fear against free will, and in doing so opened herself up to whatever mouse caught a wiff of outside the station. I can also make the case for Nemesis intentionally targeting young, potentially magical women with a propensity to go insane for one reason or another. Molly, Archive, Maeve, Justine. Me thinks Nemesis takes after her namesake and is inherently female.
*And... Is not black magic/contagion simply the primary conduit?
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I don't know about some of that, but Beside identified as male in BG as "He Who Walks Beside". We've heard him talk through three hosts, and two were female, but that seems to be more due to the power structure we've seen in the Dresden Files.
We've seen Behind briefly occupy a woman (Madge), and what was likely Before occupy a man (Vitto), and then Before later in what may have been a male body (Sharkface). So it just seemed to be that they use what they have to work with.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 05, 2021, 05:10:23 AM ---I don't know about some of that, but Beside identified as male in BG as "He Who Walks Beside". We've heard him talk through three hosts, and two were female, but that seems to be more due to the power structure we've seen in the Dresden Files.
We've seen Behind briefly occupy a woman (Madge), and what was likely Before occupy a man (Vitto), and then Before later in what may have been a male body (Sharkface). So it just seemed to be that they use what they have to work with.
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And they run a very clever operation, they are very strategic about it and they think long term.. Wonder if they have a tool to see into the future? They planted themselves in Justine, I think with possible cooperation with Lord Raith, who in turn sets her up with Thomas.. Then quietly bides it's time until the Fomor are ready to strike, then sets up the pregnancy, gives Thomas an ultimatum, that leads to the assassination attempt, which threatens to blow up the Accords but more importantly distracts and sidetracks the one being they are afraid of, Harry... Harry manages to come through and Ethniu is jailed, but that is only a temporary set back because Justine is able to still play the grieving victim and almost accomplishes the goal of sabotaging the defenses of Demonreach from inside being invited in, and letting loose on the world all matter of monsters..
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on August 04, 2021, 06:40:01 AM ---Maybe not every big bad...but I'd assume a fair amount of them. Particularly the earlier case files.
Also, SA, we have confirmation I believe of Sells and Kravos being infected. I agree they seem odd choices but I suspect the reasons for them won't be revealed until we find out a bit more about Nemesis.
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Eh ... I wouldn't take Lily's list as authoritative. She was extensively misled.
There was a WOJ that the first nemfected character appeared 'on stage' in Grave Peril, so I think Sells is in the influenced but not infected category. I'm still uncertain whether he was talking about on the literal stage with Bianca at the party scene, or just on page in a general sense.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 05, 2021, 03:56:42 PM ---Eh ... I wouldn't take Lily's list as authoritative. She was extensively misled.
There was a WOJ that the first nemfected character appeared 'on stage' in Grave Peril, so I think Sells is in the influenced but not infected category. I'm still uncertain whether he was talking about on the literal stage with Bianca at the party scene, or just on page in a general sense.
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See, this is where the terminology is limiting.
If there's a contagion that corrupts, and there's Beside possession, then what he said and what Lily said can both be accurate.
Sells end Denton are infected with the corrupting contagion. Someone in GP is possessed/hosting Beside/Nemesis.
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