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How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
bigdangmoose:
I forgot about this scenario being thrown out there by Jim a few years back. A book with Harry being in a mental hospital, like an episode of Buffy the vampire slayer.
If that book gets written, I could see Murphy coming back for that book because Harry's mortal memory of her would be flimsy, opening up a way through for her to Harry. Like how the wall to the nevernever became flimsy in GP
ntribley:
I found it a little strange how Rudolph just seemed to disappear after his post-Murphy encounter with Dresden. I mean, he was pretty beaten up, both physically and mentally. And suddenly he’s just gone? Who helped him and why? Neither Sanya nor Butters did.
What if Rudolph’s killing Murphy was a “Mirror Mirror” action. We’ve already been given hints of things that are never explained in prior books, such as Little Chicago suddenly being fixed before Harry used it the first time. Another was that drive-by accident whose perpetrators were never explained. Butcher has already hinted that eventually Harry will break all of the Council’s laws. What if - in order to stop the alt-Harry’s antics, he has to go back in time, and changes something such that Rudolph, or possibly alt-Rudolph- doesn’t kill Murphy. When Harry returns to the present timeline, Murphy is back, having never died. Her showing up again might also derail Mab’s plan for Harry to marry Lara.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: ntribley on April 17, 2021, 08:18:49 PM ---I found it a little strange how Rudolph just seemed to disappear after his post-Murphy encounter with Dresden. I mean, he was pretty beaten up, both physically and mentally. And suddenly he’s just gone? Who helped him and why? Neither Sanya nor Butters did.
What if Rudolph’s killing Murphy was a “Mirror Mirror” action. We’ve already been given hints of things that are never explained in prior books, such as Little Chicago suddenly being fixed before Harry used it the first time. Another was that drive-by accident whose perpetrators were never explained. Butcher has already hinted that eventually Harry will break all of the Council’s laws. What if - in order to stop the alt-Harry’s antics, he has to go back in time, and changes something such that Rudolph, or possibly alt-Rudolph- doesn’t kill Murphy. When Harry returns to the present timeline, Murphy is back, having never died. Her showing up again might also derail Mab’s plan for Harry to marry Lara.
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The problem I have with this idea goes back to a very popular 1980's TV series called Dallas. I never watched Dallas, with the exception of when I was dating this young women who was a big fan of the show. Normally, she would record an episode if we were going out, but I remember one night coming back to her place and she wanted to watch this major episode before anything else. It was an episode which would bring back a popular character from the dead. This episode received enough build up and advertising that I knew what it was about before it aired. So I watched it with her. I expected the character's death had been faked, or the character had been declared dead prematurely, his life had secretly been saved but he remained in hiding for a year to uncover some nefarious scheme. It was a soap opera after all. Instead it turned out that Bobby Ewing's death had just been a bad dream. Talk about bad ideas. I seem to recall that not only did this episode bring Bobby back to life but it wiped out the entire previous season of the show.
The problem with time travel fixing Rudolph and preventing Murphy's death is that it would look like Harry just had a bad dream. Also, I'm would guess that Murphy was fated to die that night. If Rudolph doesn't shoot her something else would have.
Arjan:
Fate does exist in the dresdenverse and trying to evade it using your free will is something Uriel is quite positive about but Gard in dead beat had different point of view that might be equally valid.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The problem I have with this idea goes back to a very popular 1980's TV series called Dallas. I never watched Dallas, with the exception of when I was dating this young women who was a big fan of the show. Normally, she would record an episode if we were going out, but I remember one night coming back to her place and she wanted to watch this major episode before anything else. It was an episode which would bring back a popular character from the dead. This episode received enough build up and advertising that I knew what it was about before it aired. So I watched it with her. I expected the character's death had been faked, or the character had been declared dead prematurely, his life had secretly been saved but he remained in hiding for a year to uncover some nefarious scheme. It was a soap opera after all. Instead it turned out that Bobby Ewing's death had just been a bad dream. Talk about bad ideas. I seem to recall that not only did this episode bring Bobby back to life but it wiped out the entire previous season of the show.
The problem with time travel fixing Rudolph and preventing Murphy's death is that it would look like Harry just had a bad dream. Also, I'm would guess that Murphy was fated to die that night. If Rudolph doesn't shoot her something else would have.
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Yes, and it cheapened the show. Murphy died a pretty stupid death, not a way she'd want to go out at all I think, if she had to go. But she is gone, let her rest, as Gard said, she has earned it.
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