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Justin and Simon may be dead but they may also be

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groinkick:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 25, 2021, 12:22:22 PM ---Probably not. Not at least in Dead Beat anyway. Harry specifically notes Cowl's magic while strong didn't feel inhuman.

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I don't think Cowl is Justin.  I think Justin may be Black Court, but I dont think he's Cowl.

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: groinkick on January 25, 2021, 07:01:37 PM ---I don't think Cowl is Justin.  I think Justin may be Black Court, but I dont think he's Cowl.

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Oh sorry I misunderstood you. My mind was on another thread. It is possible I suppose, but generally Black Court are quite susceptible to fire so that would make it even more likely Justin died.


--- Quote from: spiritofair on January 25, 2021, 05:35:35 PM ---Would just be amazing, especially since it has been telegraphed for a LONG time with the very name of the "Black Council".

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Yeah I know right!

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 25, 2021, 08:45:14 PM ---Oh sorry I misunderstood you. My mind was on another thread. It is possible I suppose, but generally Black Court are quite susceptible to fire so that would make it even more likely Justin died.

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perhaps but didn't Harry believe Mavra had also been killed, and she returned?

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: groinkick on January 25, 2021, 09:36:47 PM ---perhaps but didn't Harry believe Mavra had also been killed, and she returned?

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He believed that until Kincaid brought up that it was likely a different vampire that got roasted, so yes, he believed Mavra was dead but only for a few days at the most. I can't remember if the conversation is right after they kill "all" the vampires or when Harry calls Kincaid in the last chapter. He's believed Justin was dead since he was 16.

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: groinkick on January 25, 2021, 09:36:47 PM ---perhaps but didn't Harry believe Mavra had also been killed, and she returned?

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Yes he did, but Bad Alias is correct. Kincaid helps him realise that wily villains like Mavra are survivors. They don't stay that way for hundreds of years without a few tricks, like using body doubles. But it does feel like Jim was also hinting Mavra might not be the only person to use such tactics *places tinfoil hat back on head*

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