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1066, Hastings, Stamford Bridge, and the Outer Gates
Avernite:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 30, 2020, 10:09:56 AM ---That would seem to make Hades the sponsor.
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Well, Hecate's statue was in the vault. Not sure if that makes Hades the sponsor sacrificing Hecate, or if Hecate spun out some of her (their?) power.
morriswalters:
Since I'm not the author I'm not sure either. Either it's Hecate is or Hades.
--- Quote ---Hades had known we were coming, and we’d gotten in anyway. He’d known who I was. And there was, quite obviously, some kind of connection between Hades and the Queens of Faerie. I sipped at the wine. Add all that together and . . .
Butcher, Jim. Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 346). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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You could read it as Hecate, that implies that the Mantles were Hecate's sponsorship and that she split herself to do it. But I like Hades for it. That isn't a rational choice, more emotional. However this might supply some support.
--- Quote ---“Yeah, uh, right,” I said. “Well. My point is that they each had a sphere of responsibility of their own, and yet they seemed to spend a lot of time maybe neglecting that responsibility—which is not my place to judge, sure, but such a judgment might not be without supporting evidence.”
Butcher, Jim. Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 345). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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K.L.O.E.:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 30, 2020, 12:42:10 PM ---Since I'm not the author I'm not sure either. Either it's Hecate is or Hades. You could read it as Hecate, that implies that the Mantles were Hecate's sponsorship and that she split herself to do it. But I like Hades for it. That isn't a rational choice, more emotional. However this might supply some support.
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Do we know if Persephone or Demeter are still alive? If Hades and Hecate sacrificed a Nem-fected God or two on the stone table we could have the source of the Fae Courts empowerment.
This theory is amazing but does it jive with Odin being Beowulf as well? Was he walking around as a mortal and defending the gates as a God at the same time?
BrainFireBob:
The Raven banner was lost at Stamford Bridge- Mother Winter's stick?
Mab rode with the Conqueror, the Stick with Hardrada- that's Winter allied with Northmen (Normans were Viking offshoots).
England being split between Summer and Winter spheres fits the Danelaw.
Maeve is ~200 years old, I think that's the "last time" Starborn, and I lean toward a Lady vivisection being how Kemmler cracked the Darkhallow- and why Mab thought him mad. I think he was starborn.
I also think Loki was Odin's Titania, and became Nemfected but was untouchable by the Aesir due to Odin's blood brother pledge- and that this Nemfection was the cause of his going out-of-character crazy in the Poetic Edda
Conspiracy Theorist:
Mab could have been relatively new to the Queens Mantle (50 years) hence Korbs insult about pimpley faced and consistent with your time -line having previously been the Winter Lady.
Faerie may have existed before the organisation into courts, everyone was Wildfae, the Fates and Hecates power was poured into the 8 Mantles, but that was not likely the end of the power put into them, my guess a number of Fae were sacrificed on the Stone Table to add to the power of the Mantles, to create a structure which could interact with the mortal world easier than that of the God’s (hence the creation of the Knights Mantles and the step down in power from Mother Queen Lady). Add to that two new players in the Courts powers structures the Unicorns again more power required to create them, and they seem to be specific as amplifiers of the Courts Mantles. What were they originally? Greek mythology doesn’t include them and they are the Scottish heraldic animal which would be consistent with the Fae geographically. The Scottish Coat of Arms was supported by two Unicorns- prior to Napoleon did the two Courts work together in putting the Scottish King James on the English Throne?
Oh and “1066 And All That” much better title for this thread.
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