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TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 23, 2020, 06:24:08 AM ---Yes, that is why she said Molly was acting summer like.. But both Molly and Harry disagree with her.
No, Uriel didn't manipulate Harry into the risk. He manipulated Mab into going along with the risk, because the only way to save Harry's soul, was to put it at risk. It was the only way to teach him the lesson he needed to learn.
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It's tough luck for all the people who died without Harry in the gap between Changes and Skin Game because Uriel chose not to tell Harry when summoned after the whisper.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 23, 2020, 06:24:08 AM ---Yes, that is why she said Molly was acting summer like.. But both Molly and Harry disagree with her.
No, Uriel didn't manipulate Harry into the risk. He manipulated Mab into going along with the risk, because the only way to save Harry's soul, was to put it at risk. It was the only way to teach him the lesson he needed to learn.
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Uriel is too smart for that. He left the manipulation part to Murphy’s father.
deadvoid:
Of course they don't agree with her, they're not Fae, Molly isn't fully one yet, and it isn't like she can choose to be Summer vassal.
--- Quote from: Mira on December 23, 2020, 06:24:08 AM ---No, Uriel didn't manipulate Harry into the risk. He manipulated Mab into going along with the risk, because the only way to save Harry's soul, was to put it at risk. It was the only way to teach him the lesson he needed to learn.
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Uh no, that's not what happened, Uriel manipulated Harry into thinking he's truly dead & he won't lose his soul when he went back, what Mab went through was the result of Harry tried to cheat her out of their deal.
--- Quote ---“Look, kid, you’re stuck here. You aren’t going anywhere until we get this discrepancy sorted out.”
“Why not?”
“Because what comes after isn’t for people who are rubbernecking over their shoulders or bitching about how unfair they had it,” Jack said, his expression frank. “So, we sort out how you got screwed over. Then you get to move on to what’s next.”
I thought of being trapped in the hollow shell of the city outside and shuddered. “Okay. How do we fix it?”
“You go back,” Jack said. “And you catch the scum who did you.”
“Back?” I said. “Back to . . .”
“Earth, yeah,” Jack said. “Chicago.” He closed the folder and dropped it into his out-box. “You gotta find out who killed you.”
I arched an eyebrow at him. “You’re kidding.”
He stared at me, his expression as jovial as a mountain crag.
I rolled my eyes. “You want me to solve my own murder?”
He shrugged. “You want a job here instead, I can set you up.”
“Augh,” I said, shuddering again. “No.”
“Okay,” he said. “Any questions?”
“Uh,” I said. “What do you mean when you say you’re sending me back? I mean . . . back to my body or . . . ?”
“Nah,” he said. “Isn’t available. Isn’t how it works. You go back as you are.”
I frowned at him and then down at myself. “As a spirit,” I said.
He spread his hands, as if I had just comprehended some vast and weighty truth. “Don’t hang around for sunrise. Watch out for thresholds. You know the drill.”
“Yeah,” I said, disturbed. “But without my body . . .”
“Won’t have much magic. Most people can’t see you, hear you. Won’t be able to touch things.”
I stared at him. “How am I supposed to find anything out like that?” I asked.
Jack lifted both hands. “Kid, I don’t make the law. I make sure it gets observed.” He squinted at me. “Besides. I thought you were a detective.”
I clenched my jaw and glared at him. My glare isn’t bad, but he wasn’t impressed. I exhaled slowly and then said, “Solve my own murder.”
He nodded.
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Arjan:
--- Quote from: deadvoid on December 23, 2020, 07:26:03 AM ---Of course they don't agree with her, they're not Fae, Molly isn't fully one yet, and it isn't like she can choose to be Summer vassal.
Uh no, that's not what happened, Uriel manipulated Harry into thinking he's truly dead & he won't lose his soul when he went back, what Mab went through was the result of Harry tried to cheat her out of their deal.
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Except that we later discover that Jack is not Uriel but Murphy’s father. Of course he manipulated Harry into helping his daughter. Uriel could have known that would happen but Uriel always maintains deniability and can always points to a free willed choice made by someone else.
Technically true of course but for all practical purposes Uriel did manipulate things with a light but very effective touch.
Also I don’t think Uriel seems that concerned about Molly being the winter lady.
deadvoid:
--- Quote from: Arjan on December 23, 2020, 08:14:51 AM ---Except that we later discover that Jack is not Uriel but Murphy’s father. Of course he manipulated Harry into helping his daughter. Uriel could have known that would happen but Uriel always maintains deniability and can always points to a free willed choice made by someone else.
Technically true of course but for all practical purposes Uriel did manipulate things with a light but very effective touch.
Also I don’t think Uriel seems that concerned about Molly being the winter lady.
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Yeah but as Uriel's the boss and Jack weren't living human nor he free to choose Heaven, Hell or Between, it's really peculiar how Jack just told him to go back, told him nothing about the real why (Charmichael said they're big on why), makes you wonder who came up with the plan & who approved it? Not Jack of course.
Yeah, not sure about Uriel thoughts about Molly, probably can't do anything about her
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