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I'm A Bit Confused... Nemesis or Outsider or Both???
Bad Alias:
My comment was more about how he didn't find anything else off. The real question would be if Thomas noticed anything but ignored it because he was just happy to have her alive.
Nemesis' comments at the end of BG do suggest that the precautions Justine and Thomas took may have been subverted by Justine.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on November 03, 2020, 06:53:59 PM ---My comment was more about how he didn't find anything else off. The real question would be if Thomas noticed anything but ignored it because he was just happy to have her alive.
Nemesis' comments at the end of BG do suggest that the precautions Justine and Thomas took may have been subverted by Justine.
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Oh I think Thomas was blackmailed into it by Nemesis/HWWBs/Justine.. He was fully aware and felt this was the only way to save Justine. Remember he mumbled to himself on the beach when he was telling him about Justine?
--- Quote ---"Probably. I have a solution in mind," he said.
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--- Quote ---Nemesis' comments at the end of BG do suggest that the precautions Justine and Thomas took may have been subverted by Justine.
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They were subverted, but can you hold Justine responsible? She was no longer Justine at that point.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 03, 2020, 10:32:27 PM ---Oh I think Thomas was blackmailed into it by Nemesis/HWWBs/Justine.. He was fully aware and felt this was the only way to save Justine. Remember he mumbled to himself on the beach when he was telling him about Justine?
They were subverted, but can you hold Justine responsible? She was no longer Justine at that point.
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We do not know at which point she was Justine, She was influenced/infected Justine, She was possessed Justine.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on November 05, 2020, 08:09:11 AM ---We do not know at which point she was Justine, She was influenced/infected Justine, She was possessed Justine.
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When she got pregnant, she wasn't just Justine, HWWBs gloated about that. Hey, Thomas may have know she wasn't herself, even possessed, but because he loves her, he couldn't risk her death. He may have thought if he got by with it, Justine saved, that he could then deal with HWWBs.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 05, 2020, 05:00:22 PM ---When she got pregnant, she wasn't just Justine, HWWBs gloated about that. Hey, Thomas may have know she wasn't herself, even possessed, but because he loves her, he couldn't risk her death. He may have thought if he got by with it, Justine saved, that he could then deal with HWWBs.
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Not necessarily. Taking possession increases the chance of discovery and influencing the host is usually enough to get what it wants. It might even be able totale and let go at will.
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