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Who really killed ... BG spoilers!!!!
Arjan:
And Titania, doe she have Empathy?
There are so many types of monsters and in a way Uriel is a monster too. He has empathy but most of the time with all his power he can do nothing. Duty triumps everything.
BrainFireBob:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 06:11:51 PM ---Oh? Did you not catch him standing up to the members of the Accords demanding that they help the people of Chicago who got hurt? When he pinned the little bean pins on his volunteers saying if they ever needed him he'd help? The pain he felt as his volunteers died under his banner? That is empathy.
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Mira, he wasn't embracing the mantle then.
He specifically was refusing to embrace Winter with the banner. Do you just skip sentences? Mab compliments him on it.
When Harry gives the Mantle unfettered control, he changes.
Edit: Seriously, how could you even argue he was full Winter Mantle in control in any of those scenes?
Mira:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 15, 2020, 10:03:59 PM ---Mira, he wasn't embracing the mantle then.
He specifically was refusing to embrace Winter with the banner. Do you just skip sentences? Mab compliments him on it.
When Harry gives the Mantle unfettered control, he changes.
Edit: Seriously, how could you even argue he was full Winter Mantle in control in any of those scenes?
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No need for you to be insulting. >:( He even felt sorry for Ethniu as he bound her to be shipped off. Harry uses the mantle, he has learned to control it, he is beginning to get a handle on when it is the mantle talking, and does his best to stamp it back down. The mantle isn't in control all of the time, Harry doesn't let it be in control. Harry, the man, has empathy, that is what I am talking about. The Winter Mantle doesn't, but it can be very useful because it doesn't. But the Winter Mantle isn't Harry, and Harry isn't the Mantle. At the end of the day Harry is a wizard, a strong willed man who is a vessel for the Winter Knight's mantle, that man has empathy.
Dina:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 15, 2020, 10:03:59 PM ---Mira, he wasn't embracing the mantle then.
He specifically was refusing to embrace Winter with the banner. Do you just skip sentences? Mab compliments him on it.
When Harry gives the Mantle unfettered control, he changes.
Edit: Seriously, how could you even argue he was full Winter Mantle in control in any of those scenes?
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That was uncalled for :-\
morriswalters:
That ran straight into the gutter.
@Mira
The function of your mind is to maintain control. Harry is a good guy and good guys never shit stomp their friends. The type of guy that can wander so far over the hedge that he can do that is a danger to anyone around him. And in the moment empathy wasn't even in the room. However he is a fictional character. So I assume Jim did it for a reason. The smell of Fire and Brimstone comes from the wound, you have to torture the language to read it otherwise. But Brimstone in the books context is of the Fallen and Lucifer, not Winter. And never once in the scene does he call on Winter magic. Just his own magic.
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