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Dina:
I assume we will see that in future books, but yes, I wanted some answers about that in this book.

BrainFireBob:
Harry generally feels empathy, but not in Winter Mantle sociopath mode.

His analysis of Fix in Cold Days and analysis of Sanya and Butters in Battle Grounds are sharply parallel.

Mira:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 15, 2020, 03:35:35 PM ---Harry generally feels empathy, but not in Winter Mantle sociopath mode.

His analysis of Fix in Cold Days and analysis of Sanya and Butters in Battle Grounds are sharply parallel.

--- End quote ---

Oh?  Did you not catch him standing up to the members of the Accords demanding that they help the people of Chicago who got hurt?  When he pinned the little bean pins on his volunteers saying if they ever needed him he'd help?  The pain he felt as his volunteers died under his banner?  That is empathy.

Telynn:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 06:11:51 PM ---Oh?  Did you not catch him standing up to the members of the Accords demanding that they help the people of Chicago who got hurt?  When he pinned the little bean pins on his volunteers saying if they ever needed him he'd help?  The pain he felt as his volunteers died under his banner?  That is empathy.

--- End quote ---

But if he completely embraces the winter mantle, the empathy goes away.  He is fighting the mantle in order to stay the same Harry, not a monster with no empathy.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Telynn on October 15, 2020, 06:21:32 PM ---But if he completely embraces the winter mantle, the empathy goes away.  He is fighting the mantle in order to stay the same Harry, not a monster with no empathy.

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 Yes, he says Carlos was right, the Accord members are monsters, but he isn't.  Carlos also doesn't tell him what happened with Molly, he just says of his condition, he ran into a monster.

Now it could be that Harry can fight off the Winter Mantle not just because he is star born, but because of Malcolm.  He inherited Malcolm's good heart, he will always feel empathy.

For the record, I don't believe that Molly is a monster either and if it can be avoided she will because of her father and mother.  Actually I think empathy goes away with humanity, Mab has lived so long that she has lost most of her humanity.

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