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Anyone Else Surprised or Disappointed That Harry
Uriel_spook:
This one also bugged me quite a bit over the course of the two books. Didn't understand it at all.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 06, 2020, 01:34:39 PM ---
Didn't talk to Ivy? Yes, I understand she is totally into her Archive role now, but she is still Ivy. I
believe that Ivy still sees Harry as a friend. What I thought was weird, he didn't even give her
a head nod in acknowledgement or vice versa..
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BrainFireBob:
--- Quote from: Uriel_spook on October 11, 2020, 05:36:06 PM ---This one also bugged me quite a bit over the course of the two books. Didn't understand it at all.
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Why? Harry and Kincaid are existential threats to the Archive.
Arjan:
And as friends both Harry and Kincaid have betrayed Ivy.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 11, 2020, 06:31:22 PM ---And as friends both Harry and Kincaid have betrayed Ivy.
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In what way? Betrayal suggests that it was a deliberate attempt to hurt her. What they did was between them, what they are guilty of is indifference. She was the last person Harry would think of in his pain, suicides don't think of others, only their own pain. Kincaid saw it only as a job that would make him some pocket money. Kincaid is a killer, that is what he does, thinking that killing Harry would hurt Ivy, never entered his mind.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 11, 2020, 06:52:35 PM ---In what way? Betrayal suggests that it was a deliberate attempt to hurt her. What they did was between them, what they are guilty of is indifference. She was the last person Harry would think of in his pain, suicides don't think of others, only their own pain. Kincaid saw it only as a job that would make him some pocket money. Kincaid is a killer, that is what he does, thinking that killing Harry would hurt Ivy, never entered his mind.
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Pocket money? Nah, Kincaid was repaying a favor.
Mind: neither of them thought of Ivy, indeed, so I agree it was indiffernce. Wouldn't surprise me if that has allowed the Archive to mold her into a more standard/neutral vessel as well, but would also expect Harry to not know that.
I do partly wonder if it's deliberate; Harry hanging with Lara, Mab and Molly but being snappy and agressive to Carlos and ignoring Ivy... almost as if some of his generic humanity was indeed bleeding out.
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